NZF wrote: GotowarMissAgnes wrote:
NZF wrote:Either the Orioles have no idea or Penn just can't cut it at this level.
Or 21 year old pitchers often struggle in their debut.
Are people really this clueless about this type of thing? Penn's no different than hundreds of other kids with his level of talent. It took Bonderman close to 2 years to get it on track. Get real.
LMAO. His debut
He's had 6 starts this season after having 8 last year and all of those six starts have been a disaster, and the comparison with Bonderman is tripe. Bonderman had an ordinary year as a 20 year old in his rookie season but nothing to compare to Penn's woeful efforts. And as a 21 year old in his second year, Bonderman improved markedly which is a great sign for identifying a future stud. Penn has gone a long way backwards from his 2005 stint. That's not a good indicator and a clear sign to me that he either hasn't got the mental fortitude to pitch at this level or he's simply not that good. From the scouting reports I've read, I'm assuming it's the former.
Or, it could be a sign that most young pitchers struggle early. Bonderman started off 2003 with an ERA over 6.5, then settled in, then closed off 2003 with two straight months of ERA over 6.6. If you look back over the Cafe you'll find a lot of people questioning whether he was the real thing.
Yes, Bonderman improved in 2004...and so did Penn this year if you look at his whole record and not just his major league starts.
I have no idea whether Penn is going to be great or not. I do know that judging him on the basis of 14 starts spread over 2 years is lunacy. Lots of guys stuggle. Ripken was awful his first 3 months in the bigs.
14 games isn't a clear sign of squat.