If all you bonds fans want to argue his stats before the questionable steroid period...so be it...you still have incredibly valid points for him being outstanding. Even if you want to use his steroid stats, once again...so be it. Afterall, who know how many guys were or are using it.
Please just dont defend his steroid use. You and I both know he used them, you and I both know he knowingly used them. Despite whether or not you are gonna say he hasnt been found guilty blah blah, we all know he did. Stick to the argument that works. In the past he was an amazing ball player, with the aid of steroids he was an insanely good ball player. A cheater like many others but still an insanely good ball player with the roids.
bigh0rt wrote:There's also a difference between knowing something to be true, and assuming something to be true because it's what you want to believe.
Where a few months ago he was ready to hang it up after this year, he's now suddenly ready to have surgery to come back for another season. There hasn't been any sort of event regarding him that would have reinforced a passion in baseball so greatly, but he is now within striking distance of Aaron's record.
It's not about knowing. It's about inferencing, and connecting the dots.
Where've you been, Barry has discussed retiring for the past 4 years. If you could still play at that level, for that money, that record, wouldn't you? I sure as hell would. What keeps getting missed is the fact that he doesn't have a World Series ring. As I recall, that is what he is playing for. Breaking the homerun record will be easier than getting that ring IMO.
Play five more if you can Barry. Josh Gibson is still ahead of Hank Aaron. And there is still Sada Hara Oh (sorry about the mis-spelling Mr. Oh.) Break them all. I love to watch these haters squirm. In fact, I believe the haters are driving him to these levels.
The glass is neither half full nor half empty... It is simply a glass
rib217 wrote:If all you bonds fans want to argue his stats before the questionable steroid period...so be it...you still have incredibly valid points for him being outstanding. Even if you want to use his steroid stats, once again...so be it. Afterall, who know how many guys were or are using it.
Please just dont defend his steroid use. You and I both know he used them, you and I both know he knowingly used them. Despite whether or not you are gonna say he hasnt been found guilty blah blah, we all know he did. Stick to the argument that works. In the past he was an amazing ball player, with the aid of steroids he was an insanely good ball player. A cheater like many others but still an insanely good ball player with the roids.
Steroids weren't against baseball rules until 2003...
Since 2003 Bonds has never failed a drug test...
dyuen87 wrote:get out of the game and leave the record intact, you cheater.
The only intact record is Harmon Killebrew's. Check the sig.
And you'd better not listen to Tav; he's so far off base on this issue. Next he's going to say that Michael Jordan holds the career HR record. Isn't that right? Aren't you biased against all true baseball players, Tav? Just admit it. You know it's true.
rib217 wrote:If all you bonds fans want to argue his stats before the questionable steroid period...so be it...you still have incredibly valid points for him being outstanding. Even if you want to use his steroid stats, once again...so be it. Afterall, who know how many guys were or are using it.
Please just dont defend his steroid use. You and I both know he used them, you and I both know he knowingly used them. Despite whether or not you are gonna say he hasnt been found guilty blah blah, we all know he did. Stick to the argument that works. In the past he was an amazing ball player, with the aid of steroids he was an insanely good ball player. A cheater like many others but still an insanely good ball player with the roids.
Steroids weren't against baseball rules until 2003...
Since 2003 Bonds has never failed a drug test...
dyuen87 wrote:get out of the game and leave the record intact, you cheater.
The only intact record is Harmon Killebrew's. Check the sig.
And you'd better not listen to Tav; he's so far off base on this issue. Next he's going to say that Michael Jordan holds the career HR record. Isn't that right? Aren't you biased against all true baseball players, Tav? Just admit it. You know it's true.
I didnt know that needed to be stated in baseball rules that ILLEGAL substances arent allowed in the game. I suppose they could chill in the dug out and snort a few lines of other illegal substaces then?? its not in the rulebook is it?
rib217 wrote: I didnt know that needed to be stated in baseball rules that ILLEGAL substances arent allowed in the game. I suppose they could chill in the dug out and snort a few lines of other illegal substaces then?? its not in the rulebook is it?
So by your logic, any player that's done something illegal should be stripped of his records? Fantastic. Someone else agrees with me that Harmon is the true Home Run champ.
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