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Postby Jackalope » Thu Sep 14, 2006 6:21 pm

I post this here due to the wealth of background knowledge on both these now major leaguers and the fact they are still young.

I am forced to choose between these two to go forward. Will Felix take it to the next level?

Will Cain keep it up?

Who will be better - comon prognosticators, help a boy out!

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Postby shortsavage » Thu Sep 14, 2006 6:55 pm

That's a tough one.

* For starters, keep in mind that Felix Hernandez is a year and a half younger than Matt Cain.

* Hernandez ranked as high as Baseball America's No. 2 prospect entering 2005 and at the age of 18. Cain ranked as high as No. 10 when he was 20 for BA. Although these rankings are a little fuzzy to compare because each class of top prospects is different, I think it's fair to say that Hernandez has always been thought to have the heigher ceiling.

* They are both VERY (as in Cy Young potential) good. I think Hernandez will take it to the next level; Cain will keep it up.

I think Cain will be a little better in 2007, but after that, all bets are off. Hernandez still has the higher ceiling in my mind. There's no clear choice, you should just go with whomever you think fits best on your team or what your gut is telling you. Just be comfortable knowing that you can't really make a bad choice.
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Postby ukjohn » Thu Sep 14, 2006 9:18 pm

Hernandez >>> Cain

easy choice for me...especially considering Hernandez is in a tougher league
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Postby FantasyGURU802 » Thu Sep 14, 2006 9:30 pm

Hernandez over Cain IMO
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Postby PlayingWithFire » Thu Sep 14, 2006 9:35 pm

pretty much agree with shortsavage. If you are not contending next year. I'll probably take Felix' upside. If you are, Cain is probably better next year. Either way, I don't think you can go too wrong with either one. It might be the difference between Santana and Carpenter 3-4 years down the road. Cain is more of a sure thing right now but IMO not by much and Hernandez has higher ceilings
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Postby shortsavage » Thu Sep 14, 2006 9:54 pm

ukjohn wrote:Hernandez >>> Cain

easy choice for me...especially considering Hernandez is in a tougher league


Maybe I'm too sleeped deprived to recall basic mathematics, but I think you conflict with yourself here.
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Postby Jackalope » Thu Sep 14, 2006 10:49 pm

thanks for the input - have to choose 2 of Kazmir, Felix, and Cain..

Figured Kazmir is the gimmi - but in another thread many were liking Cain over Kazmir so now I'm all confused..

we keep 8 (Crawford, M. Cabrera, Reyes, Sizemore, Teixeira, Delmon Young and 2 of these SP's as I see it)....

I'd imagine I'm competing next year I have gained about 40 Roto's over the last few months "rebuilding" and tonight moved up to 3rd.
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Postby ukjohn » Thu Sep 14, 2006 11:52 pm

shortsavage wrote:
ukjohn wrote:Hernandez >>> Cain

easy choice for me...especially considering Hernandez is in a tougher league


Maybe I'm too sleeped deprived to recall basic mathematics, but I think you conflict with yourself here.


How so??? The AL is MUCH tougher to pitch in than the NL. (just ask any pitcher who switches leagues)
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Postby brewcrew4you » Fri Sep 15, 2006 1:01 am

His point is that if Hernandez is in a much tougher league, than that decreases his value, so he wouldn't be >>>> BECAUSE of being in a tougher league, it would have to be despite it.


I like Cain a ton, and he should continue to outperform Commoner Felix in the short term.

I'd keep Cain.
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Postby ukjohn » Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:26 pm

brewcrew4you wrote:His point is that if Hernandez is in a much tougher league, than that decreases his value, so he wouldn't be >>>> BECAUSE of being in a tougher league, it would have to be despite it.


I like Cain a ton, and he should continue to outperform Commoner Felix in the short term.

I'd keep Cain.


gotcha...my point was that he will put up better numbers DESPITE being in a tougher league
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