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Postby hooligan1 » Thu Sep 14, 2006 12:32 am

dyuen87 wrote:Few things that jump out at me right away.

M-Cab is definitely not being taken second overall in a mixed league.
Hafner wont be a first round pick merely because he is Util only. Santana is not a 3rd overall pick, i put him in the mid-late first round.
David Wright definitely takes a huge bump down, i know his numbers are nice, but he's been putrid the second half, ever since the Home Run Derby.
Jeter is not a second round player, more like the 3/4.
You give pitchers way too much credit here. Other than Santana pitchers dont start to fly off the board till the 3rd - 4th round.
I think I'd take either Crawford or Bay instead of Holliday.


Then who would you take @2? Cabrera's numbers are fantastic. If he can turn a few of his 48 doubles into homers, and keep stealing some bases (9 right now) along with .330-.340 average and .430 OBP, then I'm pretty sure the argument could be made for taking him there.

I agree with you on Jeter; this is not nesc. my preferred top 25, but rather where I feel most of these guys will be drafted in most leagues.

Hafner WILL be a first round pick in many, perhaps most, leagues because.....well look at his numbers. Position flexibility is over-rated, I think. Are you telling me those stats aren't top 12?

I also generally agree about pitchers @3, but Santana is just so dominant. He actually was taken 3rd overall in my main league this year, although I wouldn't have taken him there.

Finally I don't have pitchers "flying off the board". I have 4 SP's in my top 25. I don't see how that is giving them too much representation......

Thanks for the input!! ;-D
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Postby tinfoilxtouch » Thu Sep 14, 2006 12:55 am

I'll take a stab at mine. Pardon me if I forget anyone, I'm doing this on the fly.

1. Pujols
2. Soriano (team and position dependant)
3. Ortiz
4. Howard
5. Santana
6. Beltran
7. Utley
8. Wright
9. MCab
10. Reyes
11. Arod
12. Hafner
13. Crawford
14. Morneau
15. Bay
16. Halladay
17. Manny
18. Teixeira
19. Tejada
20. Oswalt
21. Holliday
22. Kazmir
23. Abreu
24. Ichiro
25. D Lee

I'm sure there are some screwy things here, but it's better than the first list.
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Postby GradysBaby13 » Thu Sep 14, 2006 1:04 am

I will rank my top 50. Like you said, I'm sure on draft day next year the list will look very different, but here is how I see it at the moment, if I was forced to draft for 07 tomarrow.

1. Albert Pujols, 1B, STL
2. Johan Santana, SP, MIN
3. Alfonso Soriano, OF, WAS
4. Ryan Howard, 1B, PHI
5. Miguel Cabrera, 3B, FLA
6. Carlos Beltran, OF, NYM
7. Travis Hafner, DH, CLE
8. David Ortiz, 1B, BOS
9. Alex Rodriguez, 3B, NYY
10. Vladimir Guerrero, OF, LAA
11. Jose Reyes, SS, NYM
12. Carl Crawford, OF, TB
13. David Wright, 3B, NYM
14. Chase Utley, 2B, PHI
15. Manny Ramirez, OF, BOS
16. Miguel Tejada, SS, BAL
17. Jason Bay, OF, PIT
18. Grady Sizemore, OF, CLE
19. Derek Jeter, SS, NYY
20. Chris Carpenter, SP, STL
21. Matt Holliday, OF, COL
22. Vernon Wells, OF, TOR
23. Jermaine Dye, OF, CWS
24. Lance Berkman, 1B, HOU
25. Justin Morneau, 1B, MIN
26. Carlos Lee, OF, TEX
27. Roy Halladay, SP, TOR
28. Ichiro Suzuki, OF, SEA
29. Johnny Damon, OF, NYY
30. Scott Kazmir, SP, TB
31. Jimmy Rollins, SS, PHI
32. Joe Mauer, C, MIN
33. Aramis Ramirez, 3B, CHC
34. Joe Nathan, CL, MIN
35. Jake Peavy, SP, SD
36. Mark Teixeria, 1B, TEX
37. Bobby Abreu, OF, NYY
38. Garrett Atkins, 3B, COL
39. Paul Konerko, 1B, CWS
40. Jim Thome, 1B, CWS
41. Fransisco Rodriguez, CL, LAA
42. Brandon Webb, SP, ARZ
43. Michael Young, SS, TEX
44. Derek Lee, 1B, CHC
45. B.J. Ryan, CL, TOR
46. Carlos Zambrano, SP, CHC
47. Roy Oswalt, SP, HOU
48. Pedro Martinez, SP, NYM
49. Johathon Papelbon, CL, BOS
50. Fransisco Liriano, SP, MIN
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Postby mweir145 » Thu Sep 14, 2006 1:37 am

Quick look at hooligan's:

Cabrera, Jeter, Carpenter, Halladay, Wells, Zambrano and Holliday are too high.
Manny, Soriano (especially), and Crawford are too low.

Some of the others are debatable, but those are the biggest flaws I found.
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Postby brewcrew4you » Thu Sep 14, 2006 1:47 am

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Postby IllinoisBandit » Thu Sep 14, 2006 2:13 am

Not bad. Miggy and Jeter too high, but other than that it'll probably be pretty close to the primer for next year's draft.
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Postby tianyi86 » Thu Sep 14, 2006 2:13 am

This is a look at hooligan's list:

Mcab at #2 is way too high. I would take him mid 1st round for sure, but I would rather save the #2 spot for Soriano (soriano is way too low).

I understand the argument that soriano had a career year, but mid 2nd round is what most ppl drafted him as before this season started with the expectation that his stats will regress from 2005. With that in mind, having soriano as a mid 2nd rounder even w/o the 2b eligibility is illogical.

Personally, I dont feel comfortable having zambrano in the 2nd round. The cubs is weak offensively and zambrano's whip has risen to 1.31 this season. His era should be around 4 rather than the 3.5.

Halladay is another pitcher I wouldnt take in round 2. Hes been injured for the past 2 seasons and plus his k/9 is way down. I wouldnt take him just for the wins and the ratio and the possibility of him getting hurt.

Morneau dont really deserve to be in the t25. HIs power for the 2nd half is mediocre at best.
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Postby superfly » Thu Sep 14, 2006 2:31 am

tianyi86 wrote:Halladay is another pitcher I wouldnt take in round 2. Hes been injured for the past 2 seasons and plus his k/9 is way down. I wouldnt take him just for the wins and the ratio and the possibility of him getting hurt.


To be fair, both his injuries the last 2 years have been because of comebackers that whacked him in the elbow, hardly his fault or an indication that he's injury prone.
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Postby sharksfan1139 » Thu Sep 14, 2006 4:27 am

tinfoilxtouch wrote:I'll take a stab at mine. Pardon me if I forget anyone, I'm doing this on the fly.

1. Pujols
2. Soriano (team and position dependant)
3. Ortiz
4. Howard
5. Santana
6. Beltran
7. Utley
8. Wright
9. MCab
10. Reyes
11. Arod
12. Hafner
13. Crawford
14. Morneau
15. Bay
16. Halladay
17. Manny
18. Teixeira
19. Tejada
20. Oswalt
21. Holliday
22. Kazmir
23. Abreu
24. Ichiro
25. D Lee

I'm sure there are some screwy things here, but it's better than the first list.


no Vlad? ill take it as a mistake because hes definately better than most of those players
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Postby Ender » Thu Sep 14, 2006 8:25 am

I dunno, Bay had one good month this entire season and the rest of the months are really mediocre. He easily could be a 25 HR, 10 SB guy next year in which case he doesn't reach my top 25. Its too early to think about that stuff anyway so no comment in general.
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