RBI rule - fair or not

[johnsamo]

Howie Kendrick hits into a DP but in the process drives in the go ahead run, but doesn't get credited with an RBI... Seems to me the importance of another run trumps the negative of a dp.

[mweir145]

I think hitting into a double play is almost always more detrimental to the team than getting that run in, therefore as a hitter you shouldn't get credited for an RBI.

[johnsamo]

yeah, but he's on my fantasy team... and the way this game is going, every run is gold.

[The Miner Part 2]

hey as long as the angles are scoring runs its AG.

[NZF]

Yeah agree with MW. In essence you can't do much worse in an AB than hit or ground into a double play so why should you be rewarded for it. The only grey area for me is if a player hits a sac fly into a double play

[Geek]

Howie Kendrick hits into a DP but in the process drives in the go ahead run, but doesn't get credited with an RBI... Seems to me the importance of another run trumps the negative of a dp.

In those cases, it's fair to assume that the defense was willing to concede the run in order to get the DP. In other words, the run scored not because the batter did anything to get the run home, but rather because the other team let him score.

[rainman23]

Yeah agree with MW. In essence you can't do much worse in an AB than hit or ground into a double play so why should you be rewarded for it. The only grey area for me is if a player hits a sac fly into a double play

Good point, NZF. In no way should the batter be penalized for a baserunner's error. I believe the scoring rules award the RBI unless it's a conventional force DP.

[bravo369]

I'm with the first guy though. We've all watched baseball before and we know that with a guy on 3rd with less than 2 outs, all the batter has to do is basically put the ball in play. to me, a strikeout in that situation is more detrimental than grounding into a DP.

on a similar note, i hate when a guy steals 2nd but they don't give it to him because of fielder's indifference. that's a load of bs in my opinion. the guy still moved up a base and should be given credit for it. an IBB still counts as a walk to a batter doesn't it?