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Postby ebrage » Fri Sep 01, 2006 7:57 pm

sharksfan1139 wrote:
acsguitar wrote:I don't feel like rating the crappy ones.

Reyes
Tejada
Jeter


agreed


I also agree. ;-D
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Postby IllinoisBandit » Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:08 pm

Rafael Furcal
Adam Everett
Jose Reyes
Miguel Tejada
Juan Uribe
Derek Jeter
Carlos Guillen
Jimmy Rollins
Orlando Cabrera
Jhonny Peralta

Based on watching them. Although to be honest I havn't seen much of Uribe or Guillen, nor Tejada recently. I'm pretty confident in my #1 and #10 though.
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Postby HOOTIE » Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:52 pm

IllinoisBandit wrote:Rafael Furcal
Adam Everett
Jose Reyes
Miguel Tejada
Juan Uribe
Derek Jeter
Carlos Guillen
Jimmy Rollins
Orlando Cabrera
Jhonny Peralta

Based on watching them. Although to be honest I havn't seen much of Uribe or Guillen, nor Tejada recently. I'm pretty confident in my #1 and #10 though.


Of those 10, Peralta is the best this year

FRAA

Peralta 28
Everett 16
Furcal 8

Not sure why Jeter is ranked so high? He's at 0 FRAA, which is great for him. Tejada, Reyes, Guillen, are below average.
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Postby cordscords » Fri Sep 01, 2006 10:05 pm

HOOTIE wrote:
IllinoisBandit wrote:Rafael Furcal
Adam Everett
Jose Reyes
Miguel Tejada
Juan Uribe
Derek Jeter
Carlos Guillen
Jimmy Rollins
Orlando Cabrera
Jhonny Peralta

Based on watching them. Although to be honest I havn't seen much of Uribe or Guillen, nor Tejada recently. I'm pretty confident in my #1 and #10 though.


Of those 10, Peralta is the best this year

FRAA

Peralta 28
Everett 16
Furcal 8

Not sure why Jeter is ranked so high? He's at 0 FRAA, which is great for him. Tejada, Reyes, Guillen, are below average.


The Media makes out Jeter to be great.

BTW- What is FRAA and where can I find the stat?
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Postby IllinoisBandit » Fri Sep 01, 2006 10:54 pm

Uh, if Peralta leads one of those crazy defensive statistics I think that alone would be reason enough to debunk the statistic.

The man plays like he's wearing steel boots out there.
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Postby PlayingWithFire » Fri Sep 01, 2006 10:59 pm

cordscords wrote:
HOOTIE wrote:
IllinoisBandit wrote:Rafael Furcal
Adam Everett
Jose Reyes
Miguel Tejada
Juan Uribe
Derek Jeter
Carlos Guillen
Jimmy Rollins
Orlando Cabrera
Jhonny Peralta

Based on watching them. Although to be honest I havn't seen much of Uribe or Guillen, nor Tejada recently. I'm pretty confident in my #1 and #10 though.


Of those 10, Peralta is the best this year

FRAA

Peralta 28
Everett 16
Furcal 8

Not sure why Jeter is ranked so high? He's at 0 FRAA, which is great for him. Tejada, Reyes, Guillen, are below average.


The Media makes out Jeter to be great.

BTW- What is FRAA and where can I find the stat?


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Postby cordscords » Fri Sep 01, 2006 11:14 pm

Thank you PWF.
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Postby Steve-o » Fri Sep 01, 2006 11:51 pm

Thanks to The Fielding Bible, a new treatise from John Dewan on the defensive merits of major league players and teams, we have just that.

Perhaps Astros fans should pipe down about the club's inability to push through a proposed trade that would have sent Everett and Roy Oswalt to the Orioles for the big bat of Miguel Tejada at the nonwaiver trading deadline.

They should read a four-page essay from the esteemed Bill James detailing the ways in which Everett is superior to Derek Jeter and how Everett easily was the best at the position the past three seasons.

Dewan's sleep-deprived crew at Baseball Info Solutions came to that conclusion after watching video of every game played in that span and charting the direction, distance, type and result of every ball put in play.

The resulting plus-minus system, in which every fielder (catchers excluded) was assigned a rating based on how he fared against an average defender at his position, greatly advanced the cause of defensive sabermetrics.

Everett was assigned a plus-76 for the past three years, well ahead of the Pirates' Jack Wilson (plus-50), who was ranked second. Tejada, at plus-15, ranked 11th. Jeter (minus-64) was 30th, and Rangers All-Star Michael Young (minus-73) ranked 31st and last.


Whole article here.
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