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Re: where will these guys fall next year?

Postby activechamp2006 » Thu Aug 31, 2006 11:22 am

TheYanks04 wrote:
Belle4Hall88 wrote:Where will these guys get drafted next year?

- Brad Lidge
- Rich Harden
- Mark Buehrle
- Felix Hernandez
- Richie Sexson
- Jorge Cantu
- Bartolo Colon
- Coco Crisp
- Ben Sheets
- Mark Prior



Most of these players a major risks at this point. A guess, but based on a 10 team 5x5 Roto league:


- Brad Lidge (round 13-16)
- Rich Harden (round 12-16)
- Mark Buehrle (round 15-16)
- Felix Hernandez (Round 11-12)
- Richie Sexson (round 8-11)
- Jorge Cantu (round 13-14)
- Bartolo Colon (round 12-15)
- Coco Crisp (round 19-20)
- Ben Sheets (round 14-16)
- Mark Prior (round 15-20)

Personally, I would avoid-list Harden, Sheets and Prior. The Triage Trio are not worth dealing with unless they fall to the end of the draft.

Sexson, Colon and Buehrle have now proven to be unreliable players and while they should not be avoided, you should probably make sure you only draft them if they fall quite a bit. Sexson is likely to still go way too early imo.

King Flop is still too hyped and should not be drafted anywhere near the top 10 rounds imo. Someone will grab him though. Let them.


even in a 10 team league theres no way these rounds would be correct.. sheets is drafted early every season, injury or not.. in a 10 team league im sure he still goes in the 6th-8th.. and in a 12 team league he will probably go in the 5th-7th.. im not saying thats when id take him, thats just when hes going to go.. same with rich harden and most likely felix.
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Re: where will these guys fall next year?

Postby Geek » Thu Aug 31, 2006 11:54 am

Yoda wrote:
Geek wrote:- Brad Lidge--Depends on whether he has a job--anywhere from round 9 to not drafted at all
- Rich HardenRound 8
- Mark BuehrleRound 11
- Felix HernandezRound 9
- Richie SexsonRound 11
- Jorge CantuRound 9
- Bartolo ColonDepending on health, Round 9 to Round 14
- Coco CrispRound 11
- Ben SheetsRound 8
- Mark PriorRound 12


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What league would have Harden, Felix and Sheets fall to the 8-9th round? Do you play in a 4 team league? Sexson in the 11th? LOL


Harden makes Mark Prior look like Lou Gehrig.

Felix has yet to put together a good full season. Why would you take him over guys like Lackey, Smoltz, Verlander, Bonderman, etc?

Sheets is another injury question mark. He went in the 5-7th round this year, and his stock has fallen since then.
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Re: where will these guys fall next year?

Postby brewcrew4you » Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:15 pm

Most of these players a major risks at this point. A guess, but based on a 10 team 5x5 Roto league:


- Brad Lidge (round 13-16)
- Rich Harden (round 12-16)
- Mark Buehrle (round 15-16)
- Felix Hernandez (Round 11-12)
- Richie Sexson (round 8-11)
- Jorge Cantu (round 13-14)
- Bartolo Colon (round 12-15)
- Coco Crisp (round 19-20)
- Ben Sheets (round 14-16)
- Mark Prior (round 15-20)

Personally, I would avoid-list Harden, Sheets and Prior. The Triage Trio are not worth dealing with unless they fall to the end of the draft.

King Flop is still too hyped and should not be drafted anywhere near the top 10 rounds imo. Someone will grab him though. Let them.[/quote]


So in a 10 man league, you wouldn't take Sheets, Prior, or Harden inside the top 150???


Good lord man, that's Tim Hudson - type value right there. I would bet Sheets and Harden definitely go before then, and if Prior looks healthy, he could go anywhere.
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Re: where will these guys fall next year?

Postby TheYanks04 » Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:28 pm

brewcrew4you wrote:Most of these players a major risks at this point. A guess, but based on a 10 team 5x5 Roto league:


- Brad Lidge (round 13-16)
- Rich Harden (round 12-16)
- Mark Buehrle (round 15-16)
- Felix Hernandez (Round 11-12)
- Richie Sexson (round 8-11)
- Jorge Cantu (round 13-14)
- Bartolo Colon (round 12-15)
- Coco Crisp (round 19-20)
- Ben Sheets (round 14-16)
- Mark Prior (round 15-20)

Personally, I would avoid-list Harden, Sheets and Prior. The Triage Trio are not worth dealing with unless they fall to the end of the draft.

King Flop is still too hyped and should not be drafted anywhere near the top 10 rounds imo. Someone will grab him though. Let them.



So in a 10 man league, you wouldn't take Sheets, Prior, or Harden inside the top 150???


Good lord man, that's Tim Hudson - type value right there. I would bet Sheets and Harden definitely go before then, and if Prior looks healthy, he could go anywhere.[/quote]


Brad Penny and Derek Lowe were going late teen rounds this year. Smoltz went anywhere from 60's to 110 overall. As someone noted, there are the Verlander, Bonderman types around also. I just can;t see any of these guys being risked in the top 10 rounds. There is no reason too with the other talent around. Now that is not to say that someone will not be foolish and reach for a Roick Harden in round 7, but assumin gyou play with intelligent players, I do not see why anyone would risk a Harden or a Sheets prior to round 11 and that would be pushing it. If people do, they are more than welcome to assume that risk from my point of view. I love it when solid players are bypassed for enormous risks in fantasy leagues. Major risks are for the teen rounds, not the top 10 rounds.
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Postby pibb55 » Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:58 pm

None of them should make it past the 12th round or so, except Lidge if his job is uncertain.


Coco Crisp in the 19th or 20th? He will have plenty of offseason time this year to heal his wrist and will return to a .300 hitter with decent pop and great speed at the top of the Red Sox Lineup. If he fell anywhere past the 10th next year, it'd be a steal.

Felix struggled with the infamous sophomore slump. His potential itself warrants a top 9 pick at the very least. And I see him being a top 10 pitcher next year. His career is starting much like Webbs.

You gotta expect guys like Buehrle to bounce back after an off year.

Harden, Prior and Sheets are tough to call because I like to avoid these injury risks, but someone will take a risk with them before the 10th round because they are all top 10 pitchers when healthy.
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Postby jbauer2485 » Thu Aug 31, 2006 1:00 pm

I'll add another name for consideration:

Gomes
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Postby Geek » Thu Aug 31, 2006 1:32 pm

jbauer2485 wrote:I'll add another name for consideration:

Gomes


15th round or lower--injured plus a horrible BA.
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Postby activechamp2006 » Thu Aug 31, 2006 2:20 pm

Geek wrote:
jbauer2485 wrote:I'll add another name for consideration:

Gomes


15th round or lower--injured plus a horrible BA.


what has gomes proven? how good a guy can start then how fast he can become crap? oh wait gomes and shelton share that award.
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Postby Geek » Thu Aug 31, 2006 2:24 pm

activechamp2006 wrote:
Geek wrote:
jbauer2485 wrote:I'll add another name for consideration:

Gomes


15th round or lower--injured plus a horrible BA.


what has gomes proven? how good a guy can start then how fast he can become crap? oh wait gomes and shelton share that award.


I meant 15th round or worse. Worth a flyer for a bench spot, but nothing more.
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Postby Belle4Hall88 » Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:21 pm

I would maybe take Gomes in the last round, but he is not somebody i will be looking at.

How bout Peavy??
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