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Postby BTOWNHESS » Tue Aug 29, 2006 8:36 pm

OneLoveBoomer wrote:I think this is a great question, and I think the original sentiment is correct -- next year will be a question mark.

My thought on the matter is that the shoe-ins like Vlad and ARod and Manny are getting outproduced pretty badly by the likes of Jermaine Dye and others. Take Beltran over Vlad or Manny? Seems early. Take Howard before Crawford? It's unclear to me. And guys like Holliday and Dye -- where on earth are these guys going to go. Reyes -- are people going to go with him over someong like Vlad?

One thing we can all agree on, I'm sure: Yahoo's official rankings will be very, very comical.

Edit: My Pre-rankings right now would be (I don't put Santana in):

Definente 1st Rounders:
1. Albert Pujols
2. Alfonso Soriano
3. Alex Rodriguez
4. David Ortiz
5. Vladimir Guerrero
6. Manny Ramirez
7. Carl Crawford
8. D. Wright
9. Carlos Beltran
10. J. Reyes
11. R. Howard
12. C. Utley
13. Mig. Cabrera
14. D. Jeter
15. M. Tejada
16. T. Hafner
17. J. Dye
18. Bay
19. Abreau


Dye Bay and Abreau even getting considered 1st rounders is hilarious
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Postby OneLoveBoomer » Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:06 pm

activechamp2006 wrote:hmm dye and jeter over bay? on what planet?


I'll almost certainly be going Dye and Jeter before Bay.

MotorCityKitties wrote:He's not saying that Dye and Abreu are better than santana. He knows that he won't take Santana so there was no point in putting him in his rankings. Someone will snag him in the first and he doesn't care.


Right.

BTOWNHESS wrote:Dye Bay and Abreau even getting considered 1st rounders is hilarious


I have them as second rounders...I was supposing a 10teamer and they're all listed in the teens...
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Postby Zito is God » Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:19 pm

Abreu will barely crack the second round if that.

I would rather take Halladay in the second over some guy who will give me a .290 AVE while coming up short of 100 in both RBIs and runs. Hes not worth mentioning in the first round anymore, and he would be a VERY late second rounder for me if that.
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Postby cordscords » Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:23 pm

I would definitley take Bay before Jeter and Dye. Bay owns Jeter in HR's, and Dye remains somewhat of an injury risk and this is his career year.
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Postby Zito is God » Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:27 pm

Bay plays OF while Jeter plays a position that seems to thin every single year for the past decade.
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Postby jdsun1 » Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:27 pm

This is Dye's career year and the same case can be made for Jeter. I like Ryan Howard in the first round though and I think that Abreu in the second round is feasible since he is hitting really well in NY, but he won't ever be first round again.
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Postby cordscords » Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:52 pm

Zito is God wrote:Bay plays OF while Jeter plays a position that seems to thin every single year for the past decade.


- Bay owns Jeter in the power department.
- SS is the deepest it's been in what appears to be forever (Reyes, Jeter, Rollins, Glaus, Tejada, Ramirez, Guillen, Hall, Furcal, Lopez, Cabrera, Renteria, Young, Lugo, Peralta).
- While Jeter is a fantastic player, he is playing over his head this season. His OBP is over .400 and his AVG is around .330, yet he hasnt done that since the 2000 season. I expect those numbers to be very good again next year, but I do think they take a small dive which will effect his RBI and R totals.
- Bay has improved his walk rate the last 2 seasons.

For those reasons I will take Bay over Jeter.
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Postby Iconoclastic » Wed Aug 30, 2006 1:46 am

Why do guys STILL take Jason Bay before Grady Sizemore?!?! What more proof do you need? How many more seasons do you have to make the same mistake over and over? Do you just not get to watch Sizemore and Bay play much?
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Aramis Ramirez in 155 G will hit over .300 40 HR 110 RBIs

Brian McCann will have more value than Jorge Posada regardless of draft position
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Postby TB13 » Wed Aug 30, 2006 9:14 am

Zito is God wrote:Abreu will barely crack the second round if that.

I would rather take Halladay in the second over some guy who will give me a .290 AVE while coming up short of 100 in both RBIs and runs. Hes not worth mentioning in the first round anymore, and he would be a VERY late second rounder for me if that.

Personally, I would take Halladay ahead as well. HOWEVER, Abreu batting 3rd on the Yankees next year, all but guarantees that he will have a good amount of runs and rbi's (in excess of 100 by a healthy amount). He may not hit the homers, but a .300+ ba, 110 runs & rbi's are easily within reach.
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Postby slomo007 » Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:28 am

Dye will definitely be on my do not draft list next year. Even hearing him mentioned in the top 3 rounds make me very, very scared. Go ahead, buy high...I won't. :-o
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