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Postby BxBombers951 » Sun Aug 27, 2006 9:40 pm

these would be the rosters IMO, i think havoc missed this one

AL East -

C - Ramon Hernandez
1B - Jason Giambi
2B - Robinson Cano
3B - Alex Rodriguez
SS - Miguel Tejada (maybe DJ, completely diff players)
LF - Manny Ramirez
CF - Vernon Wells
RF - Carl Crawford (need a leadoff hitter, im sure he could play right)
DH - David Ortiz

SP - Roy Halladay, Curt Schilling, Mike Mussina, Scott Kazmir, Chien Ming Wang
RP - BJ Ryan, Jonathan Papelbon, Mariano Rivera (along with various other middle relief)




AL Central -

C - Joe Mauer
1B - Justin Morneu
2B - Taduhito Iguchi
3B - Joe Crede
SS - Carlos Guillen
LF - Magglio Ordonez
CF - Grady Sizemore
RF - Jermaine Dye
DH - Travis Hafner or Jim Thome, too close to call


SP - Johan Santana, Fransico Liriano, Jose Contreras, C.C. Sabathia, Justin Verlander
RP - Joel Zumaya, Joe Nathan, Bobby Jenks (among other inning eaters)


i still think AL...FAR superior offense, SP is about even and RP is better.
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Postby giants! » Sun Aug 27, 2006 9:56 pm

Havok1517 wrote:
Strasil42 wrote:
Havok1517 wrote:
disgruntledjetsfan wrote:
Havok1517 wrote:C Joe Mauer & Victor Martinez
1B Justin Morneau & Paul Konerko
2B Tadahito Iguchi & Luis Castillo
3B Mark Teahen & Joe Crede
SS Carlos Guillen & Jhonny Peralta
LF Scott Podsednik & Marcus Thames
CF Tori Hunter & Grady Sizemore
RF Jermaine Dye & Magglio Ordonez
DH Travis Hafner & Jim Thome

SP Johan Santana
SP Mark Buehrle
SP C.C. Sabathia
SP Justin Verlander
SP Francisco Liriano
LR Dennys Reyes
LR Matt Thornton
MR Fernando Rodney
MR Juan Rincon
SU Joel Zumaya
SU Bobby Jenks
CL Joe Nathan

VS.

C Jorge Posada & Ramon Hernandez
1B Kevin Youkilis & Lyle Overbay
2B Mark Loretta & Brian Roberts
3B Alex Rodriguez & Troy Glaus
SS Derek Jeter & Miguel Tejada
LF Manny Ramirez & Carl Crawford
CF Vernon Wells & Johnny Damon
RF Alex Rios & Bobby Abreu
DH David Oritz & Jason Giambi

SP Roy Halladay
SP Curt Schilling
SP Josh Beckett
SP Mike Mussina
SP Scott Kazmir
LR Scott Proctor
LR Mike Myers
MR Kyle Farnsworth
MR Chris Ray
SU B.J. Ryan
SU Mariano Rivera
CL Jon Papelbon


Okay, who wins????



I don't know anything about you, but I'm assuming you must be a BoSox fan. Anyone in their right mind would know that Rivera would be the closer, and Beckett (who kinda sucks) would not be the #3 SP.


And the East would win, that lineup would be too ridiculous. I think you can add Hideki Matsui to that lineup (who is almost healthy), when you have Kazmir in there, who is on the DL.


Actually I'm not a Red Sox fan or a Yankee fan. Sorry you're Yankee love blinds you from reality. I'm just going strickly by this year's numbers. Matsui and Shef have barely played this year and would not be on any All-Star team. Liriano is in the same boat that Kazmir is but both have great numbers this year. I'll repeat, Pap has had a better year as closer than Rivera has. Rivera is obviously the better player so far but an All-Star team goes by yearly stats and Pap beats all other closers.


So if you are going by this year's numbers, why in the world would you include Josh Beckett??

He's been terrible this year.

:-t :-t


Well who is a better starter than Beckett in the East that hasn't already been included? Johnson? Wang? Lilly? Bedard? Slim pickings if you ask me.


Johnson Wang and Bedard are all better than Beckett.
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Postby Havok1517 » Sun Aug 27, 2006 10:06 pm

Fine, pick somebody besides Beckett. They're not going to pitch more than 1 or 2 innings anyways.
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Postby DK » Sun Aug 27, 2006 10:06 pm

BxBombers951 wrote:these would be the rosters IMO, i think havoc missed this one

AL East -

C - Ramon Hernandez
1B - Jason Giambi
2B - Robinson Cano
3B - Alex Rodriguez
SS - Miguel Tejada (maybe DJ, completely diff players)
LF - Manny Ramirez
CF - Vernon Wells
RF - Carl Crawford (need a leadoff hitter, im sure he could play right)
DH - David Ortiz

SP - Roy Halladay, Curt Schilling, Mike Mussina, Scott Kazmir, Chien Ming Wang
RP - BJ Ryan, Jonathan Papelbon, Mariano Rivera (along with various other middle relief)




AL Central -

C - Joe Mauer
1B - Justin Morneu
2B - Taduhito Iguchi
3B - Joe Crede
SS - Carlos Guillen
LF - Magglio Ordonez
CF - Grady Sizemore
RF - Jermaine Dye
DH - Travis Hafner or Jim Thome, too close to call


SP - Johan Santana, Fransico Liriano, Jose Contreras, C.C. Sabathia, Justin Verlander
RP - Joel Zumaya, Joe Nathan, Bobby Jenks (among other inning eaters)


i still think AL...FAR superior offense, SP is about even and RP is better.


Yeah, I'd take the AL too. Can't lose that one. O:-)
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Postby Havok1517 » Sun Aug 27, 2006 10:08 pm

BxBombers951 wrote:these would be the rosters IMO, i think havoc missed this one

AL East -

C - Ramon Hernandez
1B - Jason Giambi
2B - Robinson Cano
3B - Alex Rodriguez
SS - Miguel Tejada (maybe DJ, completely diff players)
LF - Manny Ramirez
CF - Vernon Wells
RF - Carl Crawford (need a leadoff hitter, im sure he could play right)
DH - David Ortiz

SP - Roy Halladay, Curt Schilling, Mike Mussina, Scott Kazmir, Chien Ming Wang
RP - BJ Ryan, Jonathan Papelbon, Mariano Rivera (along with various other middle relief)




AL Central -

C - Joe Mauer
1B - Justin Morneu
2B - Taduhito Iguchi
3B - Joe Crede
SS - Carlos Guillen
LF - Magglio Ordonez
CF - Grady Sizemore
RF - Jermaine Dye
DH - Travis Hafner or Jim Thome, too close to call


SP - Johan Santana, Fransico Liriano, Jose Contreras, C.C. Sabathia, Justin Verlander
RP - Joel Zumaya, Joe Nathan, Bobby Jenks (among other inning eaters)


i still think AL...FAR superior offense, SP is about even and RP is better.


Well, considering every All-Star game has to include at least 1 player from every team. This time I think KC's Teahen actually deserves to play.
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Postby BxBombers951 » Sun Aug 27, 2006 10:22 pm

Havok1517 wrote:Fine, pick somebody besides Beckett. They're not going to pitch more than 1 or 2 innings anyways.


Chien Ming Wang destroys 1 pitch beckett
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Postby HOOTIE » Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:09 pm

The East easy. Ortiz would hit a clutch walk off hr to win it all. :-D
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Postby mweir145 » Mon Aug 28, 2006 1:20 am

Havok1517 wrote:
Strasil42 wrote:
Havok1517 wrote:
disgruntledjetsfan wrote:
Havok1517 wrote:C Joe Mauer & Victor Martinez
1B Justin Morneau & Paul Konerko
2B Tadahito Iguchi & Luis Castillo
3B Mark Teahen & Joe Crede
SS Carlos Guillen & Jhonny Peralta
LF Scott Podsednik & Marcus Thames
CF Tori Hunter & Grady Sizemore
RF Jermaine Dye & Magglio Ordonez
DH Travis Hafner & Jim Thome

SP Johan Santana
SP Mark Buehrle
SP C.C. Sabathia
SP Justin Verlander
SP Francisco Liriano
LR Dennys Reyes
LR Matt Thornton
MR Fernando Rodney
MR Juan Rincon
SU Joel Zumaya
SU Bobby Jenks
CL Joe Nathan

VS.

C Jorge Posada & Ramon Hernandez
1B Kevin Youkilis & Lyle Overbay
2B Mark Loretta & Brian Roberts
3B Alex Rodriguez & Troy Glaus
SS Derek Jeter & Miguel Tejada
LF Manny Ramirez & Carl Crawford
CF Vernon Wells & Johnny Damon
RF Alex Rios & Bobby Abreu
DH David Oritz & Jason Giambi

SP Roy Halladay
SP Curt Schilling
SP Josh Beckett
SP Mike Mussina
SP Scott Kazmir
LR Scott Proctor
LR Mike Myers
MR Kyle Farnsworth
MR Chris Ray
SU B.J. Ryan
SU Mariano Rivera
CL Jon Papelbon


Okay, who wins????



I don't know anything about you, but I'm assuming you must be a BoSox fan. Anyone in their right mind would know that Rivera would be the closer, and Beckett (who kinda sucks) would not be the #3 SP.


And the East would win, that lineup would be too ridiculous. I think you can add Hideki Matsui to that lineup (who is almost healthy), when you have Kazmir in there, who is on the DL.


Actually I'm not a Red Sox fan or a Yankee fan. Sorry you're Yankee love blinds you from reality. I'm just going strickly by this year's numbers. Matsui and Shef have barely played this year and would not be on any All-Star team. Liriano is in the same boat that Kazmir is but both have great numbers this year. I'll repeat, Pap has had a better year as closer than Rivera has. Rivera is obviously the better player so far but an All-Star team goes by yearly stats and Pap beats all other closers.


So if you are going by this year's numbers, why in the world would you include Josh Beckett??

He's been terrible this year.

:-t :-t


Well who is a better starter than Beckett in the East that hasn't already been included? Johnson? Wang? Lilly? Bedard? Slim pickings if you ask me.

Why not Burnett?
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Postby Big Hurt CPOY 06 » Mon Aug 28, 2006 1:27 am

BxBombers951 wrote:youk and overbay? what about giambi?


He's the DH.

But about Beckett...Wang has been MUCH better. Burnett would be a better fit. Bedard would even be better.
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Postby mweir145 » Mon Aug 28, 2006 1:37 am

Big Hurt CPOY 06 wrote:
BxBombers951 wrote:youk and overbay? what about giambi?


He's the DH.

But about Beckett...Wang has been MUCH better. Burnett would be a better fit. Bedard would even be better.

Yeah, all 3 of those guys would easily be a better option for that spot than Beckett.

I also think Speier is a much better option for the MR role than Farnsworth, but that's just nitpicking.
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