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Postby Havok1517 » Sun Aug 27, 2006 7:02 pm

mrmelo15 wrote:...and I'll go with Yanks here. I think Rivera should be their closer, not that it matters much.


Just going with this year and Pap has, by the numbers, been the best closer this year.
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Postby disgruntledjetsfan » Sun Aug 27, 2006 8:39 pm

Havok1517 wrote:C Joe Mauer & Victor Martinez
1B Justin Morneau & Paul Konerko
2B Tadahito Iguchi & Luis Castillo
3B Mark Teahen & Joe Crede
SS Carlos Guillen & Jhonny Peralta
LF Scott Podsednik & Marcus Thames
CF Tori Hunter & Grady Sizemore
RF Jermaine Dye & Magglio Ordonez
DH Travis Hafner & Jim Thome

SP Johan Santana
SP Mark Buehrle
SP C.C. Sabathia
SP Justin Verlander
SP Francisco Liriano
LR Dennys Reyes
LR Matt Thornton
MR Fernando Rodney
MR Juan Rincon
SU Joel Zumaya
SU Bobby Jenks
CL Joe Nathan

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C Jorge Posada & Ramon Hernandez
1B Kevin Youkilis & Lyle Overbay
2B Mark Loretta & Brian Roberts
3B Alex Rodriguez & Troy Glaus
SS Derek Jeter & Miguel Tejada
LF Manny Ramirez & Carl Crawford
CF Vernon Wells & Johnny Damon
RF Alex Rios & Bobby Abreu
DH David Oritz & Jason Giambi

SP Roy Halladay
SP Curt Schilling
SP Josh Beckett
SP Mike Mussina
SP Scott Kazmir
LR Scott Proctor
LR Mike Myers
MR Kyle Farnsworth
MR Chris Ray
SU B.J. Ryan
SU Mariano Rivera
CL Jon Papelbon


Okay, who wins????



I don't know anything about you, but I'm assuming you must be a BoSox fan. Anyone in their right mind would know that Rivera would be the closer, and Beckett (who kinda sucks) would not be the #3 SP.


And the East would win, that lineup would be too ridiculous. I think you can add Hideki Matsui to that lineup (who is almost healthy), when you have Kazmir in there, who is on the DL.
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Postby disgruntledjetsfan » Sun Aug 27, 2006 8:40 pm

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BxBombers951 wrote:also, cano should be there instead of either roberts or loretta



No way, Cano has only played 89 games this season.



o yea, that too, cano is so much better than roberts, and is a better player than loretta. who cares that he spent some time on the DL this season.
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Postby 1337_Dude » Sun Aug 27, 2006 8:58 pm

I think I'd go with the East.
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Postby Havok1517 » Sun Aug 27, 2006 9:06 pm

disgruntledjetsfan wrote:
Havok1517 wrote:C Joe Mauer & Victor Martinez
1B Justin Morneau & Paul Konerko
2B Tadahito Iguchi & Luis Castillo
3B Mark Teahen & Joe Crede
SS Carlos Guillen & Jhonny Peralta
LF Scott Podsednik & Marcus Thames
CF Tori Hunter & Grady Sizemore
RF Jermaine Dye & Magglio Ordonez
DH Travis Hafner & Jim Thome

SP Johan Santana
SP Mark Buehrle
SP C.C. Sabathia
SP Justin Verlander
SP Francisco Liriano
LR Dennys Reyes
LR Matt Thornton
MR Fernando Rodney
MR Juan Rincon
SU Joel Zumaya
SU Bobby Jenks
CL Joe Nathan

VS.

C Jorge Posada & Ramon Hernandez
1B Kevin Youkilis & Lyle Overbay
2B Mark Loretta & Brian Roberts
3B Alex Rodriguez & Troy Glaus
SS Derek Jeter & Miguel Tejada
LF Manny Ramirez & Carl Crawford
CF Vernon Wells & Johnny Damon
RF Alex Rios & Bobby Abreu
DH David Oritz & Jason Giambi

SP Roy Halladay
SP Curt Schilling
SP Josh Beckett
SP Mike Mussina
SP Scott Kazmir
LR Scott Proctor
LR Mike Myers
MR Kyle Farnsworth
MR Chris Ray
SU B.J. Ryan
SU Mariano Rivera
CL Jon Papelbon


Okay, who wins????



I don't know anything about you, but I'm assuming you must be a BoSox fan. Anyone in their right mind would know that Rivera would be the closer, and Beckett (who kinda sucks) would not be the #3 SP.


And the East would win, that lineup would be too ridiculous. I think you can add Hideki Matsui to that lineup (who is almost healthy), when you have Kazmir in there, who is on the DL.


Actually I'm not a Red Sox fan or a Yankee fan. Sorry you're Yankee love blinds you from reality. I'm just going strickly by this year's numbers. Matsui and Shef have barely played this year and would not be on any All-Star team. Liriano is in the same boat that Kazmir is but both have great numbers this year. I'll repeat, Pap has had a better year as closer than Rivera has. Rivera is obviously the better player so far but an All-Star team goes by yearly stats and Pap beats all other closers.
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Postby Kurtangletn » Sun Aug 27, 2006 9:15 pm

Havok1517 wrote:
BxBombers951 wrote:also, cano should be there instead of either roberts or loretta



No way, Cano has only played 89 games this season.
So? Cano is better then Loretta.

Maybe not roberts, but Loretta.
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Postby Strasil42 » Sun Aug 27, 2006 9:23 pm

Havok1517 wrote:
disgruntledjetsfan wrote:
Havok1517 wrote:C Joe Mauer & Victor Martinez
1B Justin Morneau & Paul Konerko
2B Tadahito Iguchi & Luis Castillo
3B Mark Teahen & Joe Crede
SS Carlos Guillen & Jhonny Peralta
LF Scott Podsednik & Marcus Thames
CF Tori Hunter & Grady Sizemore
RF Jermaine Dye & Magglio Ordonez
DH Travis Hafner & Jim Thome

SP Johan Santana
SP Mark Buehrle
SP C.C. Sabathia
SP Justin Verlander
SP Francisco Liriano
LR Dennys Reyes
LR Matt Thornton
MR Fernando Rodney
MR Juan Rincon
SU Joel Zumaya
SU Bobby Jenks
CL Joe Nathan

VS.

C Jorge Posada & Ramon Hernandez
1B Kevin Youkilis & Lyle Overbay
2B Mark Loretta & Brian Roberts
3B Alex Rodriguez & Troy Glaus
SS Derek Jeter & Miguel Tejada
LF Manny Ramirez & Carl Crawford
CF Vernon Wells & Johnny Damon
RF Alex Rios & Bobby Abreu
DH David Oritz & Jason Giambi

SP Roy Halladay
SP Curt Schilling
SP Josh Beckett
SP Mike Mussina
SP Scott Kazmir
LR Scott Proctor
LR Mike Myers
MR Kyle Farnsworth
MR Chris Ray
SU B.J. Ryan
SU Mariano Rivera
CL Jon Papelbon


Okay, who wins????



I don't know anything about you, but I'm assuming you must be a BoSox fan. Anyone in their right mind would know that Rivera would be the closer, and Beckett (who kinda sucks) would not be the #3 SP.


And the East would win, that lineup would be too ridiculous. I think you can add Hideki Matsui to that lineup (who is almost healthy), when you have Kazmir in there, who is on the DL.


Actually I'm not a Red Sox fan or a Yankee fan. Sorry you're Yankee love blinds you from reality. I'm just going strickly by this year's numbers. Matsui and Shef have barely played this year and would not be on any All-Star team. Liriano is in the same boat that Kazmir is but both have great numbers this year. I'll repeat, Pap has had a better year as closer than Rivera has. Rivera is obviously the better player so far but an All-Star team goes by yearly stats and Pap beats all other closers.


So if you are going by this year's numbers, why in the world would you include Josh Beckett??

He's been terrible this year.

:-t :-t
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Postby Havok1517 » Sun Aug 27, 2006 9:23 pm

Kurtangletn wrote:
Havok1517 wrote:
BxBombers951 wrote:also, cano should be there instead of either roberts or loretta



No way, Cano has only played 89 games this season.
So? Cano is better then Loretta.

Maybe not roberts, but Loretta.


Both Loretta and Roberts have played more games and have contributed more fantasy-wise and in reality this year. If Cano had been healthy all year he'd probably have better numbers than Loretta. But he didn't and doesn't. Look it up before you automatically say I'm wrong.

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Postby Havok1517 » Sun Aug 27, 2006 9:26 pm

Strasil42 wrote:
Havok1517 wrote:
disgruntledjetsfan wrote:
Havok1517 wrote:C Joe Mauer & Victor Martinez
1B Justin Morneau & Paul Konerko
2B Tadahito Iguchi & Luis Castillo
3B Mark Teahen & Joe Crede
SS Carlos Guillen & Jhonny Peralta
LF Scott Podsednik & Marcus Thames
CF Tori Hunter & Grady Sizemore
RF Jermaine Dye & Magglio Ordonez
DH Travis Hafner & Jim Thome

SP Johan Santana
SP Mark Buehrle
SP C.C. Sabathia
SP Justin Verlander
SP Francisco Liriano
LR Dennys Reyes
LR Matt Thornton
MR Fernando Rodney
MR Juan Rincon
SU Joel Zumaya
SU Bobby Jenks
CL Joe Nathan

VS.

C Jorge Posada & Ramon Hernandez
1B Kevin Youkilis & Lyle Overbay
2B Mark Loretta & Brian Roberts
3B Alex Rodriguez & Troy Glaus
SS Derek Jeter & Miguel Tejada
LF Manny Ramirez & Carl Crawford
CF Vernon Wells & Johnny Damon
RF Alex Rios & Bobby Abreu
DH David Oritz & Jason Giambi

SP Roy Halladay
SP Curt Schilling
SP Josh Beckett
SP Mike Mussina
SP Scott Kazmir
LR Scott Proctor
LR Mike Myers
MR Kyle Farnsworth
MR Chris Ray
SU B.J. Ryan
SU Mariano Rivera
CL Jon Papelbon


Okay, who wins????



I don't know anything about you, but I'm assuming you must be a BoSox fan. Anyone in their right mind would know that Rivera would be the closer, and Beckett (who kinda sucks) would not be the #3 SP.


And the East would win, that lineup would be too ridiculous. I think you can add Hideki Matsui to that lineup (who is almost healthy), when you have Kazmir in there, who is on the DL.


Actually I'm not a Red Sox fan or a Yankee fan. Sorry you're Yankee love blinds you from reality. I'm just going strickly by this year's numbers. Matsui and Shef have barely played this year and would not be on any All-Star team. Liriano is in the same boat that Kazmir is but both have great numbers this year. I'll repeat, Pap has had a better year as closer than Rivera has. Rivera is obviously the better player so far but an All-Star team goes by yearly stats and Pap beats all other closers.


So if you are going by this year's numbers, why in the world would you include Josh Beckett??

He's been terrible this year.

:-t :-t


Well who is a better starter than Beckett in the East that hasn't already been included? Johnson? Wang? Lilly? Bedard? Slim pickings if you ask me.
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Postby Strasil42 » Sun Aug 27, 2006 9:33 pm

Havok1517 wrote:
Strasil42 wrote:
Havok1517 wrote:
disgruntledjetsfan wrote:
Havok1517 wrote:C Joe Mauer & Victor Martinez
1B Justin Morneau & Paul Konerko
2B Tadahito Iguchi & Luis Castillo
3B Mark Teahen & Joe Crede
SS Carlos Guillen & Jhonny Peralta
LF Scott Podsednik & Marcus Thames
CF Tori Hunter & Grady Sizemore
RF Jermaine Dye & Magglio Ordonez
DH Travis Hafner & Jim Thome

SP Johan Santana
SP Mark Buehrle
SP C.C. Sabathia
SP Justin Verlander
SP Francisco Liriano
LR Dennys Reyes
LR Matt Thornton
MR Fernando Rodney
MR Juan Rincon
SU Joel Zumaya
SU Bobby Jenks
CL Joe Nathan

VS.

C Jorge Posada & Ramon Hernandez
1B Kevin Youkilis & Lyle Overbay
2B Mark Loretta & Brian Roberts
3B Alex Rodriguez & Troy Glaus
SS Derek Jeter & Miguel Tejada
LF Manny Ramirez & Carl Crawford
CF Vernon Wells & Johnny Damon
RF Alex Rios & Bobby Abreu
DH David Oritz & Jason Giambi

SP Roy Halladay
SP Curt Schilling
SP Josh Beckett
SP Mike Mussina
SP Scott Kazmir
LR Scott Proctor
LR Mike Myers
MR Kyle Farnsworth
MR Chris Ray
SU B.J. Ryan
SU Mariano Rivera
CL Jon Papelbon


Okay, who wins????



I don't know anything about you, but I'm assuming you must be a BoSox fan. Anyone in their right mind would know that Rivera would be the closer, and Beckett (who kinda sucks) would not be the #3 SP.


And the East would win, that lineup would be too ridiculous. I think you can add Hideki Matsui to that lineup (who is almost healthy), when you have Kazmir in there, who is on the DL.


Actually I'm not a Red Sox fan or a Yankee fan. Sorry you're Yankee love blinds you from reality. I'm just going strickly by this year's numbers. Matsui and Shef have barely played this year and would not be on any All-Star team. Liriano is in the same boat that Kazmir is but both have great numbers this year. I'll repeat, Pap has had a better year as closer than Rivera has. Rivera is obviously the better player so far but an All-Star team goes by yearly stats and Pap beats all other closers.


So if you are going by this year's numbers, why in the world would you include Josh Beckett??

He's been terrible this year.

:-t :-t


Well who is a better starter than Beckett in the East that hasn't already been included? Johnson? Wang? Lilly? Bedard? Slim pickings if you ask me.


Josh Beckett has a 5.21 ERA and leads the AL in homers given up....

Take just about anyone else but him.
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