Amazinz wrote:I would say that BJ is not that good of a wrestler. Not that that's a criticism, it's just not really part of his game. I think the point about Machida having not faced a strong wrestler is a good point. However, as a counter to that, his last two fights are wins over high-level Judokas (Sokoudjou & Nakamura). I know wrestling and Judo is not a simple comparison but worth noting that Machida beat these guys at their own game. My other counter would be that I'm not convinced Ortiz is really a high-level wrestler anymore (or ever but...). There is no doubt Tito has some of the nastiest GnP ever but I just don't think he gets Machida into that position.
I'm with Amazinz. Penn has a wrestling background and he's not bad at it, but he's far from being an elite wrestler like his upcoming opponent Sean Sherk, Dan Henderson, Matt Hughes, etc. Plus Penn was fighting out of his natural weight class as he put on quite some weight to fight Machida so he was at a little bit of a disadvantage. Not trying to take anything away from Machida in that fight, but it was Penn's first at 205. If I remember the fight correctly Penn looked slow in his takedown attempts and Machida immediatley sprawled and controled him. If not please correct me.
And I know I'm in the minority when I say Tito is still a top wrestler, but I still believe in him. It's very rare that at some point during a fight Tito doesnt end up on top. He's dangerous in the mount, and will keep relentlessly working even if you have a good guard to make his opponent try to make a sudden move so he can capitalize on it. His only losses in the last few years are to Chuck & Randy. 2 legends. I think Tito is really being underrated in this fight and will pose some problems for Machida.
That being said I still think Machida takes it but Tito will make him work for it.