Havok1517 wrote:I'm not saying that Morneau doesn't deserve to be in the top 3 or even win it but I don't think he will be in top 3. I think it'll be...
Solid list except I see Thome in there instead of Halladay
Well right now, I see Halladay as the AL Cy Young, which is why I have him there. I'm not sure how Thome will or if he wil fully recover from his current ailments before the season ends. I suppose there could be a good argument for Pap to be included in the top 10 since he's been so consistent this year. But I really wanted to give Ibanez some due credit and I really think people overrate what closers do.
I just meant thats the type of hitter he is. He has the ability to hit anywhere from 1-3 in the lineup and be successful. But I fixed it for you anyway.
To me Jeter's OBP is no that special. He is only .02 higher than what he normally does. He wasn't an MVP any of those years. Why is it so impressive now? Anyway if you take Jeter off the Yankee's you still have the best lineup in baseball. The only reason they don't win more games is because George-o-brain doesn't pay for pitching. Also the Red Sox are not exactly tearing up the win-loss column. Don't you need to WIN to get the MVP.
CircleMeBert wrote:He really should be in the top 3. If you think of each of these candidates in terms of how much they mean to their team, Morneau has to take the cake.
Sure, the Yankees are in first, and naturally, you look for an MVP, but Jeter just isn't an MVP in any way. Take him out of that lineup, and there's a damn good chance the Yankees are still in first.
You obviously haven't watched a lot of Yankee games to say that.
No kidding. Without Jeter, or Giambi, the Yanks would be in huge trouble.
CircleMeBert wrote:He really should be in the top 3. If you think of each of these candidates in terms of how much they mean to their team, Morneau has to take the cake.
Sure, the Yankees are in first, and naturally, you look for an MVP, but Jeter just isn't an MVP in any way. Take him out of that lineup, and there's a damn good chance the Yankees are still in first.
You obviously haven't watched a lot of Yankee games to say that.
No kidding. Without Jeter, or Giambi, the Yanks would be in huge trouble.
I really would'nt say they'd be in huge trouble without Jeter. Even without him, that lineup is still packed with all stars. I mean, you can all say how bad of a year A-Rod is having, but he is still on pace for 33 homers and 118 RBI, pretty good for anyone not named A-rod. Then throw in Damon, Giambi, Cano, a good hitting catcher in Posada, and the addition of Abreu and you have a pretty stacked lineup. By most people's eyes, it seems like Jeter is just the default MVP for the Yankees. Your annual candidate A-Rod just ain't doin' it this year, Giambi doesn't have the avg, so naturally you choose your "leader", but unfortunately, he's just not an MVP.
CircleMeBert wrote:He really should be in the top 3. If you think of each of these candidates in terms of how much they mean to their team, Morneau has to take the cake.
Sure, the Yankees are in first, and naturally, you look for an MVP, but Jeter just isn't an MVP in any way. Take him out of that lineup, and there's a damn good chance the Yankees are still in first.
You obviously haven't watched a lot of Yankee games to say that.
No kidding. Without Jeter, or Giambi, the Yanks would be in huge trouble.
I really would'nt say they'd be in huge trouble without Jeter. Even without him, that lineup is still packed with all stars. I mean, you can all say how bad of a year A-Rod is having, but he is still on pace for 33 homers and 118 RBI, pretty good for anyone not named A-rod. Then throw in Damon, Giambi, Cano, a good hitting catcher in Posada, and the addition of Abreu and you have a pretty stacked lineup. By most people's eyes, it seems like Jeter is just the default MVP for the Yankees. Your annual candidate A-Rod just ain't doin' it this year, Giambi doesn't have the avg, so naturally you choose your "leader", but unfortunately, he's just not an MVP.
Runs Created A Game
Jeter- 8.5
Ortiz- 8.2
RC
Jeter- 104
Ortiz-104
BA/RISP
Jeter- .388
Ortiz-.286
Jeter is also leading the AL in Winshares( tied with Mauer and Manny)
Win Shares
Jeter- 22
Manny- 22
Ortiz-19
They would be in huge trouble if Jeter wasn't on that team.
Usually I think Jeter is almost always way overhyped.
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