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Postby The Artful Dodger » Tue Aug 29, 2006 12:06 pm

chadlincoln wrote:I think it is total garbage that that trade got vetoed. I'd like to know who vetoed. Then I'd like them to explain how it was collussion. I get that feeling that I'm in a yahoo public league where people veto for no reason whatsoever. That can't be true though. This is supposed to be a league with people who understand what a veto is and how to use it and not abuse it.


I swear I didn't veto. If you read what I said a few posts back, I was thinking of vetoing your deal, but like I said, it's a huge gamble on the part of the FF Guru to take stock on Chester Taylor and the Denver Bells. It might pan out for him and it might not, but certainly not veto-worthy.
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Postby teddy ballgame » Tue Aug 29, 2006 12:52 pm

Ok, well I'll be the first to come forward. When I first saw it, even though I knew it wasn't collusion I feel it really upsets the balance of the league, so I vetoed it. Now seeing that FFG really wants it I guess it was a mistake. Offer it again and hopefully it will go through the 2nd time. It won't happen again from me. :-[
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Postby jzfran » Tue Aug 29, 2006 12:57 pm

I didn't veto it...didn't agree with it but I rarely use my veto power.
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Postby teddy ballgame » Tue Aug 29, 2006 1:04 pm

Ok, by my count we have 9 guys so far who have said they didn't veto it. I'm the only one who has "confessed." It couldn't have gotten vetoed by 1 guy, so how about some people start telling the truth. It's not like you are going to be kicked out of the league if you say you did.
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Postby The Artful Dodger » Tue Aug 29, 2006 1:22 pm

teddy ballgame wrote:Ok, by my count we have 9 guys so far who have said they didn't veto it. I'm the only one who has "confessed." It couldn't have gotten vetoed by 1 guy, so how about some people start telling the truth. It's not like you are going to be kicked out of the league if you say you did.


Yeah, I find that interesting. :-?

So, me, jz, Weir, Miner, ronin, Zito, and DD, as far as I know, who didn't think the deal was vetoable. But I suppose, even if you find the deal not vetoable, that doesn't mean you won't veto. I didn't see a compelling enough reason to use the veto, but I could see why there are folks who felt they should veto.
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Postby teddy ballgame » Tue Aug 29, 2006 2:44 pm

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teddy ballgame wrote:Ok, by my count we have 9 guys so far who have said they didn't veto it. I'm the only one who has "confessed." It couldn't have gotten vetoed by 1 guy, so how about some people start telling the truth. It's not like you are going to be kicked out of the league if you say you did.


Yeah, I find that interesting. :-?

So, me, jz, Weir, Miner, ronin, Zito, and DD, as far as I know, who didn't think the deal was vetoable. But I suppose, even if you find the deal not vetoable, that doesn't mean you won't veto. I didn't see a compelling enough reason to use the veto, but I could see why there are folks who felt they should veto.

Yup, those 7 + the 2 in the trade is 9. Then add me and we have 10/12 people. So even if both of the others who haven't commented vetoed, it wouldn't have been enough.
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Postby mweir145 » Tue Aug 29, 2006 2:56 pm

teddy ballgame wrote:
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teddy ballgame wrote:Ok, by my count we have 9 guys so far who have said they didn't veto it. I'm the only one who has "confessed." It couldn't have gotten vetoed by 1 guy, so how about some people start telling the truth. It's not like you are going to be kicked out of the league if you say you did.


Yeah, I find that interesting. :-?

So, me, jz, Weir, Miner, ronin, Zito, and DD, as far as I know, who didn't think the deal was vetoable. But I suppose, even if you find the deal not vetoable, that doesn't mean you won't veto. I didn't see a compelling enough reason to use the veto, but I could see why there are folks who felt they should veto.

Yup, those 7 + the 2 in the trade is 9. Then add me and we have 10/12 people. So even if both of the others who haven't commented vetoed, it wouldn't have been enough.

Yeah, don't you need atleast 1/3 of the league for it to be officially vetoed? That means somebody out of that bunch is lying.
I of course had the inclination to veto when I first saw it as many others probably did, but then after I thought about it for a few seconds, I realized there really wasn't a legitimate reason to do it.
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Postby knapplc » Tue Aug 29, 2006 4:53 pm

mweir145 wrote: Yeah, don't you need atleast 1/3 of the league for it to be officially vetoed? That means somebody out of that bunch is lying. I of course had the inclination to veto when I first saw it as many others probably did, but then after I thought about it for a few seconds, I realized there really wasn't a legitimate reason to do it.


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Whoever "lied" probably did so not knowing it would turn into such a huge deal. I wouldn't get too upset about it.


Why not have FFG offer the trade again and see if it gets vetoed a second time? Since the majority of owners have said they'd let it pass, do it again and let it pass.

Seems easy enough. O:-)
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Postby chadlincoln » Tue Aug 29, 2006 5:08 pm

I reoffered it.
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Postby Tavish » Tue Aug 29, 2006 5:15 pm

chadlincoln wrote:I reoffered it.


I'm betting FFG was one of the guys who vetoed it. One of those "in hind-sight I was crazy to take it" vetoes. I doubt he accepts the deal again.
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