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Is Santana the clear cut Cy Young winner?

Postby Kingctb27 » Sun Aug 20, 2006 4:38 pm

It looks like he is already pretty much locked to win the Cy again. IMO, there is no one even close, no?
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Postby chadlincoln » Sun Aug 20, 2006 4:44 pm

Roy Halladay could pull it off
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Postby Lime » Sun Aug 20, 2006 4:51 pm

Halladay is the Cy Young for anyone who understands baseball.
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Postby giants! » Sun Aug 20, 2006 5:00 pm

Santana has a better era than Halladay, a higher whip, a better k/bb ratio, almost 90 more strikeouts, one less win, a better PRC(Pitching Runs Created), a better FIP ( Fielding Independant ERA), and one more win share than Halladay. I can't even find one statistic which shows why Halladay is a better pitcher.
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Postby Lime » Sun Aug 20, 2006 5:07 pm

giants! wrote:Santana has a better era than Halladay, a higher whip, a better k/bb ratio, almost 90 more strikeouts, one less win, a better PRC(Pitching Runs Created), a better FIP ( Fielding Independant ERA), and one more win share than Halladay. I can't even find one statistic which shows why Halladay is a better pitcher.


A 3.18 ERA pitching in the AL East is a much greater feat than a 3.03 ERA pitching in the AL Central.

A 1.10 WHIP pitching in the AL East is a much greater feat than a 1.03 WHIP pitching in the AL Central.

Records. Halladay is 16-3. Santana is 15-5.

If this was fantasy baseball, Santana is #1. In the real world, Santana is better in one aspect over Doc and one aspect only, strikeouts.
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Postby LiveForever » Sun Aug 20, 2006 5:30 pm

Last time i checked, Detroit and Chicago have pretty good offenses.

Saying Doc deserves it because he plays in a tougher division is a BS argument.
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Postby mweir145 » Sun Aug 20, 2006 5:32 pm

Santana right now deserves it over anybody (this is assuming Liriano doesn't come back and make some kind of run) as he has a slight ERA+ edge on Doc, but again as I've said in the past, the winner is going to be the pitcher with the most wins just as it basically is every year. At the moment, that's Halladay.
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Postby tinfoilxtouch » Sun Aug 20, 2006 5:33 pm

There is a guy named Verlander you might not want to forget about.
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Postby DK » Sun Aug 20, 2006 5:41 pm

The other 5 AL Central teams have averaged 630 runs.

The other 4 AL East teams have averaged 627 runs.

It's a wash. Santana for Cy.
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Postby DK » Sun Aug 20, 2006 5:42 pm

LiveForever wrote:Last time i checked, Detroit and Chicago have pretty good offenses.

Saying Doc deserves it because he plays in a tougher division is a BS argument.


He doesn't. See above post.
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