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Postby RyanK » Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:37 pm

this isnt really a bad beat.. but it anoys the hell outta me.. just happend..

playing 2/4 table.. got about 200.. get j10 of hearts late position, no raises yet so i raise it to 15, about 4 callers before me.. get three callers.. flop comes:

A hearts, J, 7 hearts

so i hit mid pair and my flush draw.. checks to me.. i bet just ten.. two people fold leaving three in the pot.. turn is a low card.. shouldnt play (and doesnt)

river comes its the K of hearts... so if figure i won with my flush unless someone called preflop with Q9 at best.. and figured they wouldnt call that.. so i bet hard.. 30.. i get re raised all in.. i think he hit his king or two pair possibly.. i heavily think he has the queen.. but really wonder why someone would call 15 preflop with q9 or lower.. and if thats a likely chance to have something like that.. so i call.. figure its worth the risk, pots near 350-400.. guy flips over Q6.. just hurt to see and know i kinda had the right read..
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Postby davidmarver » Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:51 pm

Madison wrote:
Art Vandelay wrote:
davidmarver wrote:Cash game with my friends tonight. Flop was 47K. I had 74 (was big blind). turn is a 7. River is a 2. I lost with full house, 7 over 4, to full house, K over 4.

Still made out like a bandit though...good 'ole ploys always work. ;-D


Huh? Did you mean you lost to sevns over kings, or am I missing something here?

Plus that's not really a bad beat, he had you dominated at every stage of the hand (assuming he had K/7 and his boats was sevens over kings).


Agreed. If he had K/7, he was a big favorite, and if he had K/K, he was a huge favorite. If he had K/7, I hope he limped off the small blind. If not, I need to find people like that to play with. B-)

Sorry, got home late, posted the hand wrong.

I had 74. Flopped 774. Turn was a K. River was a 2. Either way, I take it as a bad beat, simply because I flopped a full house, and there were only two hands that could have beaten what I had, K/7 and K/K. He had the latter. The kid was in an early position, and even bet after the flop. Not that it was a poor bet...there were only three of us playing the hand, he was chip leader, and rarely bluffs. At that point in the game, I had top possible hand.
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Postby davidmarver » Tue Aug 22, 2006 4:39 am

Just want to clarify when I said I had best possible hand after the flop; no straight flush could be made. ;-D
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Postby Art Vandelay » Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:48 am

That makes sense. Too bad for you he didn't bet his kings pre-flop or you wouldn't have even been around to catch a losing full house.
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Postby Madison » Tue Aug 22, 2006 11:34 am

DK wrote:I guess I have a different definiton of a bad beat than you guys do.

I mean, even when someone else has me totally dominated, but I'm 99% sure I have the best hand (like if I have high pair on the board and someone else has a higher pocket pair), I consider that a bad beat. Because I think I have the pot won and then someone turns over something I had no idea was coming and I just sit there and think, "Aw, crap."


A bad beat is when the better hand on the win percentage win scale preflop loses to a lesser hand once the hand is over.

Take Marver's example: K/K vs 7/4. K/K is about 84% to win that hand preflop. Marver flopped a miracle 7/7/4 (didn't need a miracle, just needed 7/7 or 7/4 on the flop which is still highly unlikely to happen - hence only the 16% chance or so to win the hand preflop), but the other guy hit his King on the tun to hit a bigger boat and win.

No bad beat in that story. Rough way to lose when you flop a boat off the big blind, but K/K was a huge favorite to win the hand preflop.


As to how he played it, since he was the chip leader and in early position, looks like he simply called the blinds hoping someone would raise preflop and he could either slow play his pocket kings, or reraise the original raiser all in. Since no one raised, it put him at a little risk, but it never hurts to change up playing style a bit.

I trap people preflop all the time because most people are raise happy. Raising preflop with k/q, j/10, any ace (in the case of any ace, most are not even playable, yet people raise preflop with them) etc., because of what they see on TV. I love getting on a preflop raise happy table, and look for those tables before sitting down. Easy money. B-)
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Postby RyanK » Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:49 am

I hate poker...

Full Tilt Poker Game #989623938: Table McKnight - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 6:34:20 ET - 2006/09/11
Seat 1: HotGarbage ($56)
Seat 2: Slorf ($147.15)
Seat 3: MannyFresh ($112.70)
Seat 4: JFSG23 ($159.20)
Seat 5: High Hopes ($40)
Seat 6: bruinbown ($19.30)
Seat 7: Eight Eighteen ($85.80), is sitting out
Seat 8: URaACEhole ($71.50)
Seat 9: RyanK13 ($117.65)
RyanK13 posts the small blind of $0.50
HotGarbage posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to RyanK13 [Ac As]
Slorf folds
MannyFresh calls $1
JFSG23 calls $1
bruinbown folds
URaACEhole folds
RyanK13 raises to $6
HotGarbage calls $5
MannyFresh calls $5
JFSG23 calls $5
*** FLOP *** [6h Kc 6c]
RyanK13 bets $11
HotGarbage calls $11
MannyFresh raises to $35
JFSG23 folds
RyanK13 raises to $75
HotGarbage calls $39, and is all in
URaACEhole: wow
MannyFresh raises to $106.70, and is all in
RyanK13 calls $31.70
MannyFresh shows [6s 8c]
RyanK13 shows [Ac As]
HotGarbage shows [4d 6d]
RyanK13: jesus
*** TURN *** [6h Kc 6c] [Th]
*** RIVER *** [6h Kc 6c Th] [Qh]
MannyFresh shows three of a kind, Sixes
RyanK13 shows two pair, Aces and Sixes
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $287.40 Main pot $174. Side pot $113.40. | Rake $3
Board: [6h Kc 6c Th Qh]
Seat 1: HotGarbage (big blind) showed [4d 6d] and won ($85.50) with three of a kind, Sixes
Seat 2: Slorf didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: MannyFresh showed [6s 8c] and won ($198.90) with three of a kind, Sixes
Seat 4: JFSG23 folded on the Flop
Seat 5: High Hopes is sitting out
Seat 6: bruinbown didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: Eight Eighteen is sitting out
Seat 8: URaACEhole (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: RyanK13 (small blind) showed [Ac As] and lost with two pair, Aces and Sixes


howwww can people call with that... i shouldve gone to bed so long ago too when i was up so much more but im an idiot.. i definatly an too tired and was like sweet one has AK cause who the he*l would have a damn and i thought maybe someone had KK but they wouldve re raised... but both of them to have 6's... its anoying as all hell right now.. and they both left the table so icant get shit back
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Postby Madison » Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:00 am

Very rough hand Ryan. All 4 sixes out? Yikes! Two people playing garbage at those stakes? 8-o

I really need to find some time and get to playing at Full Tilt. 8-o
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Postby RyanK » Tue Sep 12, 2006 3:07 am

yah tonights been some up and downs too.. just saw aces beat by 78 not suited... ive been profiting pretty well on FT in the cash games.. the sng arent going so well.. keep getting bubble finishes

but mad if you plan to sign up pm so you can help me out with this affiliates thing, gets me some money and gets you some too
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Postby Madison » Tue Sep 12, 2006 10:33 am

RyanK wrote:but mad if you plan to sign up pm so you can help me out with this affiliates thing, gets me some money and gets you some too


Sorry man, but I've already got an affiliate I use. Full Tilt is worth somewhere between $90-$120 (haven't checked in awhile) for me if I sign up through them. Unless of course you have someone with a better deal? PM me if you want and we'll talk some. ;-)
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Postby dream_017 » Tue Sep 12, 2006 4:58 pm

Last night I have about 2200 chips in late position 1 to the right of the button
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1st position calls 40
2nd folds
3rd all in for about 400
4th all in for about 700
5th fold
6th fold
me - KK - I go all in
button - fold
SB - calls - he has about 1600
BB - folds
1st - folds
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flop: 2-9-8
turn: A
River: 10
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3rd position - JJ
4th position - 99
SB - JQ not suited <img src=/forums/images/smiles/kiss.gif>
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