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Postby Strasil42 » Sun Aug 13, 2006 4:15 pm

I posted the Arod link over in the Yankees forums, but this is just too good of info for only 20 or so people to see.

Since this site includes breakdowns of other players as well, I feel it warrents a spot in the leftovers section.

Probably the most in-depth, breakdown of a swing I've ever seen.

http://baseballanalysts.com/archives/20 ... ing_sw.php

Amazing site I just found the other day.

Enjoy!!!!
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Postby tianyi86 » Sun Aug 13, 2006 8:53 pm

Great article ;-D ;-D ;-D
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Postby perlick29 » Sun Aug 13, 2006 9:28 pm

It really depends on your take of this article. Some might find it illuminating to Arod's so called downturn, but I found the video to prove absolutely nothing. For one thing the author makes no mention of pitch location. In the video of ARod swinging where he says the rotation of his hips is different by showing a red and yellow line, he says the hip rotation is different. But without a perfect angle of where the pitch is, it proves very little. If the pitch is on the inside part of the plate, Arod's hips and hands will have to clear sooner which would lead to the different finish. Don't get me wrong the author makes interesting points. But its just such a small sample size of pitches shown that it cant be proven that this is causing a slide in his numbers. Batting average is fickle. His Isolated Power, GB/FB ratio, and BB/PA all still look pretty good so it may be a matter of time before Arod gets hot again. I couldn't find his BABIP numbers so far but I wonder what kind of a role that plays as well.
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Postby Webster11 » Sun Aug 13, 2006 9:40 pm

perlick29 wrote:It really depends on your take of this article. Some might find it illuminating to Arod's so called downturn, but I found the video to prove absolutely nothing. For one thing the author makes no mention of pitch location. In the video of ARod swinging where he says the rotation of his hips is different by showing a red and yellow line, he says the hip rotation is different. But without a perfect angle of where the pitch is, it proves very little. If the pitch is on the inside part of the plate, Arod's hips and hands will have to clear sooner which would lead to the different finish. Don't get me wrong the author makes interesting points. But its just such a small sample size of pitches shown that it cant be proven that this is causing a slide in his numbers. Batting average is fickle. His Isolated Power, GB/FB ratio, and BB/PA all still look pretty good so it may be a matter of time before Arod gets hot again. I couldn't find his BABIP numbers so far but I wonder what kind of a role that plays as well.


His BABIP is .329 right around his career numbers. Fangraphs.com is a good site to see BABIP and other stats
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Postby johnsamo » Sun Aug 13, 2006 11:44 pm

Haven't read it, but I think he's the wrong kind of hitter for that field.

A-Rod's a natural to all fields power guy who occassionally pulls, but Yankee stadium for righties, it punishes to all fields power hitters and rewards power pull hitters... Anybody know if the new stadium will have different dimensions?
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Postby DeadWinterDay » Mon Aug 14, 2006 12:04 am

perlick29 wrote:It really depends on your take of this article. Some might find it illuminating to Arod's so called downturn, but I found the video to prove absolutely nothing. For one thing the author makes no mention of pitch location. In the video of ARod swinging where he says the rotation of his hips is different by showing a red and yellow line, he says the hip rotation is different. But without a perfect angle of where the pitch is, it proves very little. If the pitch is on the inside part of the plate, Arod's hips and hands will have to clear sooner which would lead to the different finish. Don't get me wrong the author makes interesting points. But its just such a small sample size of pitches shown that it cant be proven that this is causing a slide in his numbers. Batting average is fickle. His Isolated Power, GB/FB ratio, and BB/PA all still look pretty good so it may be a matter of time before Arod gets hot again. I couldn't find his BABIP numbers so far but I wonder what kind of a role that plays as well.



It says the one from '05 is a HR over the inside, and the one from '06 is a HR over the middle.


EDIT: and all the .gifs are just different frames of the same swing. ALL 05 gifs are the HR over the inside and ALL 06 gifs are HR over the middle.
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Postby TheYanks04 » Mon Aug 14, 2006 12:05 am

Arod's a natural at hitting a solo HR down 5-1 in the 9th after striking out twice and hitting into a DP. Also a natural at hitting against TB in May. It has othing to do with ball park.
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Postby Strasil42 » Mon Aug 14, 2006 12:48 am

TheYanks04 wrote:Arod's a natural at hitting a solo HR down 5-1 in the 9th after striking out twice and hitting into a DP. Also a natural at hitting against TB in May. It has othing to do with ball park.


What are you talking about???

ARod is hitting .179 against Tampa Bay this season and is a career .249 hitter against Tampa Bay.
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Postby Amazinz » Mon Aug 14, 2006 1:06 am

Nothing against Strasil, but this article seems like a whole bunch of nonsense. Not to say his conclusions are wrong, I don't know. I read the article three times over, figuring I was missing something, and the author just jumps to conclusions as he moves a long.
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Postby Mugrila » Mon Aug 14, 2006 1:12 am

Strasil42 wrote:
TheYanks04 wrote:Arod's a natural at hitting a solo HR down 5-1 in the 9th after striking out twice and hitting into a DP. Also a natural at hitting against TB in May. It has othing to do with ball park.


What are you talking about???



Same stuff he always does, inaccurate and ignorant statements with no factual basis.
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