HOF Debate: Mark McGwire

[DK]

except Belle put up those numbers without the use of steroids...

So?

[Big Pimpin]

except Belle put up those numbers without the use of steroids...

Plus Belle's a criminal.

Seriously though, prove he didn't. Prove Big Mac was.

I'm not going to get in an argument about this...

[Zito is God]

except Belle put up those numbers without the use of steroids...

Plus Belle's a criminal.

Seriously though, prove he didn't. Prove Big Mac was.

I'm not going to get in an argument about this...

By saying that you are basically flaring of hypocricy right now. Mac supporters first say you can't prove steroids so dont' accuse, then go and say that you need proof that someone didn't?! If we start saying that we need proof that someone didn't take steroids you've run out of excuses because you can say that about any single athlete. lets start talking about Ichiro why don't we?

BTW, to say that Belle had "a few good years" is insulting. I don't know who posted it but you need to read up a bit.

[DK]

except Belle put up those numbers without the use of steroids...

Plus Belle's a criminal.

Seriously though, prove he didn't. Prove Big Mac was.

I'm not going to get in an argument about this...

By saying that you are basically flaring of hypocricy right now. Mac supporters first say you can't prove steroids so dont' accuse, then go and say that you need proof that someone didn't?! If we start saying that we need proof that someone didn't take steroids you've run out of excuses because you can say that about any single athlete. lets start talking about Ichiro why don't we?

BTW, to say that Belle had "a few good years" is insulting. I don't know who posted it but you need to read up a bit.

His argument was not to be taken literally. There is no definitive proof that Mac took steroids and the world has already written him off. There is no definitive proof that Albert Belle took steroids, but nobody writes him off. To discount Mac's statistics and approve of Belle's (as Belle4Hall did) is the idea that Big Pimpin is getting at.

He's not flaring of hypocricy at all.

[Zito is God]

I think you would agree that the controversy with Mac and the controversy with Belle are in different dimensions when it comes to steroids.

[DK]

I think you would agree that the controversy with Mac and the controversy with Belle are in different dimensions when it comes to steroids.

Oh, absolutely. But in the end it's still all speculation. Who knows? Belle might have done steroids as well.

Either way for me I don't care at all. Steroids don't help you hit the ball.

[Belle4Hall88]

In Juiced, Jose Canseco writes that he tried to convince Belle to take steroids but Belle was against and and never shot up. That is proof enough for me. BTW, nice post earlier Zito is God

[BronXBombers51]

I didn't read through the thread because I'm pretty sure I already know what it says.

For me, it's simple. Look at the numbers. They are HOF worthy, so he's in. Bottom line.

[superfly]

In Juiced, Jose Canseco writes that he tried to convince Belle to take steroids but Belle was against and and never shot up. That is proof enough for me. BTW, nice post earlier Zito is God

Ever think that Belle was already roiding and was simply smart enough to do it in secresy?

[Belle4Hall88]

to me his body looks natural