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Postby poye » Wed Sep 03, 2003 10:08 pm

What s the deal with the closer situation in Florida...
Is it Looper or Urbina (got the save tonight)...
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Postby pkarr5000 » Wed Sep 03, 2003 10:10 pm

s'possed to be looper but this is starting to get confusing
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Postby Leiter Fan » Wed Sep 03, 2003 10:35 pm

I want to hit McKeon really hard for this garbage.
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Postby pkarr5000 » Wed Sep 03, 2003 10:36 pm

whoa, whoa, dont kill him with one punch!! lol :-D
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Postby Leiter Fan » Wed Sep 03, 2003 10:37 pm

pkarr5000 wrote:whoa, whoa, dont kill him with one punch!! lol :-D


I'm not looking to kill him, just maim him a little.
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Postby jdh » Wed Sep 03, 2003 10:43 pm

It would be no shock if they give the closer's job to Urbina and demote Looper, for the stretch run. Look at their numbers since the all star break:

Urbina: 1.16 ERA, 0.94 WHIP, .167 BAA
Looper: 5.40 ERA, 1.45 WHIP, .305 BAA

Urbina has been lights out in the second half and Looper has been absolutely terrible. In a pennant race it's about what have you done lately, not what have you done three months ago, so clearly Looper deserves to lose his job. Opponents are batting for twice the average against him as Urbina. Who would you want closing in a tight game?
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Postby Leiter Fan » Wed Sep 03, 2003 10:45 pm

jdh wrote:It would be no shock if they give the closer's job to Urbina and demote Looper, for the stretch run. Look at their numbers since the all star break:

Urbina: 1.16 ERA, 0.94 WHIP, .167 BAA
Looper: 5.40 ERA, 1.45 WHIP, .305 BAA

Urbina has been lights out in the second half and Looper has been absolutely terrible. In a pennant race it's about what have you done lately, not what have you done three months ago, so clearly Looper deserves to lose his job. Opponents are batting for twice the average against him as Urbina. Who would you want closing in a tight game?


Fine, if that's what McKeon wants to do, then he should announce it. Otherwise, all he's doing is pissing on Looper (as well as any fantasy player who owns him, even though that's obviously the last thing on McKeon's mind).
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Postby jdh » Wed Sep 03, 2003 10:48 pm

Well, what I think he might be doing is moving to having Urbina and Looper be co-closers. In his previous managerial stints, MacKeon has liked having multiple closers, sometimes doing multi-inning saves, based on matchups and who is hot. It wouldn't be surprising at all if that's what he'll go with here. Of course, that absolutely sucks for fantasy owners.
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Postby Madison » Wed Sep 03, 2003 11:17 pm

Another confusing closer situation. Why am I not surprised by this? Lol. :-b
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Postby demoflauchy » Thu Sep 04, 2003 9:38 am

I'm just glad I traded Urbina while he was still the closer in Texas. Don't have to worry about this stuff.
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