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Postby 128franco » Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:19 pm

With Carmona blowing up, does it not make sense that he would next in line for save opps., as opposed to Betancourt
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Postby Big Pimpin » Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:24 pm

I think they're going to stick with Carmona. They don't care about this year any more, and it's more to see if Carmona can get it together to be their closer of the future. I really don't think it matters if he blows a few more, I think he's the closer for the rest of the season and they'll be able to see how he can handle it.
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Postby kimchi_chigae » Thu Aug 03, 2006 11:07 pm

Wedge has said that Carmona would remain as the closer and Jason Davis getting the save tonight doesn't mean anything. Before the season began there was a lot of talk about Cabrera being the closer of the future for the Indians, but Cabrera struggled out of the gate and spent some time on the DL. There is still a chance Cabrera will be the closer someday and maybe they will let Carmona start again if he keeps struggling in the closer's role like he has, but I think that before Cabrera is given the chance they will go with Betancourt.

Carmona is a good pitcher, he should be successful not mater where they put him.
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Postby dyuen87 » Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:17 am

Wont really make a difference, both have electric stuff but get lit up when they get thrown into the fire.
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Postby giants! » Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:36 am

They should just leave Davis in there until he blows up. He is the only guy with a save.
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Postby Super Manny » Fri Aug 04, 2006 9:54 pm

Tonight, Cabrera came in for the bottom of the 8th with a 6-4 lead and men on 1st and 3rd with 1 out. He narrowly escaped giving up a homerun down the right field line to Carlos Guillen before escaping with a sacrifice fly (run charged to Betancourt). Then with two out and a man on first, he proceeded to get lucky once again with a foul ball homerun just outside the left field foul pole by Craig Monroe. The next time, he wasn't so lucky as Monroe got ahold of one and sent it into the stands, giving the Indians a 7-6 lead in the game.

I think it's safe to say Cabrera will NOT be considered for saves if Carmona continues to falter. Both Betancourt and Davis should get serious looks.
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Postby converge241 » Fri Aug 04, 2006 10:37 pm

ugh

whos next in line..hafner?
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Postby mcqfesijiba » Sat Aug 05, 2006 8:11 pm

Super Manny wrote:Tonight, Cabrera came in for the bottom of the 8th with a 6-4 lead and men on 1st and 3rd with 1 out. He narrowly escaped giving up a homerun down the right field line to Carlos Guillen before escaping with a sacrifice fly (run charged to Betancourt). Then with two out and a man on first, he proceeded to get lucky once again with a foul ball homerun just outside the left field foul pole by Craig Monroe. The next time, he wasn't so lucky as Monroe got ahold of one and sent it into the stands, giving the Indians a 7-6 lead in the game.

I think it's safe to say Cabrera will NOT be considered for saves if Carmona continues to falter. Both Betancourt and Davis should get serious looks.
In his defense, Monroe has been on absolute fire lately. Monroe completely owned Cabrera in that entire at bat. Cabera's command has been off most of the year and he got burned by a big mistake to Monroe. Cabrera's still young, so maybe he can put it together next year, because this doesn't look like his year.
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Postby INKcogKNEEdough » Sun Aug 06, 2006 3:50 am

I still say Cabrera is the man in the long run. He is making me look foolish with that prediction so far, but I am stubbornly sticking to it. I drafted him in a keeper for $3 bucks so I admit a certain amount of biased or hopefulness, but I also have a 'knack' for finding closers before they become closer(knock on wood). ex:krod,street,gagne,nathan,beck, among others. Now starting pitchers THAT is a different story. I have personally ruined the season (if not careers) of many many quality 'stud' sp's. (sheets, schilling,wood,prior,peavy,this list could go on for 3 pages but I will stop there).

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