Now I don't feel so bad. In my keeper league, someone offered his Beckett for my Miggy, and I replied "not even close." He was actually offended! Miggy is in Santana territory, not Beckett territory.
I'd take the following over him for sure:
Pujols
ARod
Vlad
Manny
Crawford
Ortiz
Santana
In the same ballpark (meaning arguable who gets picked over whom):
Wright
Soriano
Beltran
Bay
Utley
Reyes (arguable, but 2b is so weak)
Berkman
Hafner
Probably lower:
Tejada
Abreu
I think people over-value young studs in keeper leagues. In keeper leagues, your time horizon is either this year or next year. Forget about 3-4 years down the line. Too much can happen. Plus, there are always good young guys who come into the league that you can get.
5 years ago you might have built a fantasy squad around Bonds. You'd have gotten 4 years of fantastic production (01-04). And then nada. And Manny is the riskiest in that sense. But four years is a long time. You would most certainly have been competitive if not tops in the league. Trading can happen at any time too. If you have Pujols, you should be able to get antother top keeper PLUS another keeper or player that will help push you over the top for a stretch run. So Pujols is the runaway choice at #1 for me.
About 5 years ago, I built my roto keeper (15) around Manny (must have been about 29-30 at that time and has been solid - slightly younger than Ortiz today), Berkman (young), Halladay (later traded right at his peak in the off-season after his Cy), Crawford (his rookie year, so I got him cheap), and Helton. Helton is tapering off, but i am still glad he was my first round pick at that time. He gave me 2-3 years of top poduction and he still contributes. If I could pick only one top keeper, it would be Manny or Crawford and I'd have a hard time deciding. Both are great and I wouldn't hesitate with either.
bellings wrote:Now I don't feel so bad. In my keeper league, someone offered his Beckett for my Miggy, and I replied "not even close." He was actually offended! Miggy is in Santana territory, not Beckett territory.
...I think spots #2 thru #4 are a toss up. I had both Wright and MCab earlier this year in a keeper, but traded MCab away...so obviously I like Wright a little better. But just by a little. I think MCab is probably the second best hitter in baseball.
"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."-Ayn Rand
If I'm in a keeper league, whether I think it will last just 2-3 years or 15 years I am drafting just for what I think about the player for this year and next, thats it. I'll worry about 3 years from now when I get there, by then there will be a whole new crop of youngins to choose from.....
djacks wrote:Wow...not much love for Beltran here.
I'd rank them:
Pujols Wright Arod MCab Crawford Beltran
...I think spots #2 thru #4 are a toss up. I had both Wright and MCab earlier this year in a keeper, but traded MCab away...so obviously I like Wright a little better. But just by a little. I think MCab is probably the second best hitter in baseball.
Um Beltran has better numbers then everyone on thats list except for pujols. I'd rank them as this.
Pujols
Arod
Beltran
Howard
Wright
Oritz
Soriano
Reyes
Crawford
Utley
He's a first-rounder. Why rank him in comparison to other first-rounders? The Drunk probably isn't going to have many first-round, keeper-types on his squad, but even if he does have three or four, he's going to keep them all.
M-Cab is a keeper. Unless you have the first 6 players taken in the draft, there's no reason to debate it further.
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by SirDunkALot » Tue Aug 01, 2006 1:07 am 
