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Postby boyz35 » Mon Jul 31, 2006 7:41 pm

bigmoney wrote:yankees always "win" during the offseason and trade deadline because of their payroll...duh. few other teams wouldve taken on the contract of abreu. but it doesnt matter because the yanks only have one good starting pitcher, so it's not like they have a chance even if they make the playoffs. nice strategery cashman and steinbrenner.

They didn't win in 2004 when they signed Carl Pavano for 4 years 40 mil and Jaret Wright for 3 years 21 mil with a 4 mil buyout clause in 2007. That's why their starting rotation is hurting. It doesn't matter how much money you dump. The Abreu deal, one the other hand, was a good one. They gave up 4 low end prospects and some money,and got him to waive the no trade clause. That's just good general managing.
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Postby Pogotheostrich » Mon Jul 31, 2006 8:20 pm

Wow. I can't believe anyone thinks this is a bad move for the Yanks. They get a useful bat for a pitcher that was going to be DFA 3 weeks ago. And once again the Pirates overplayed their hand asking for too much at first and ending up with not enough.
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Postby avsfan4ever33 » Mon Jul 31, 2006 9:33 pm

Haha Chacon... how the "mighty" have fallen.

I love how last year the Yankees fans gloated about how big a steal they got from the Rockies. Well, a year later, who looks to have got the steal? ;-7
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Postby CHE » Mon Jul 31, 2006 9:55 pm

avsfan4ever33 wrote:Haha Chacon... how the "mighty" have fallen.

I love how last year the Yankees fans gloated about how big a steal they got from the Rockies. Well, a year later, who looks to have got the steal? ;-7


Not to mention in the off season, every yank fan was saying he was a good 3 starter ;-7 :-D
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Postby jbauer2485 » Mon Jul 31, 2006 10:22 pm

CHE wrote:
avsfan4ever33 wrote:Haha Chacon... how the "mighty" have fallen.

I love how last year the Yankees fans gloated about how big a steal they got from the Rockies. Well, a year later, who looks to have got the steal? ;-7


Not to mention in the off season, every yank fan was saying he was a good 3 starter ;-7 :-D


He WAS a good 3 starter until he got injured and then inconsistent playing time effected his game.
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Postby BronXBombers51 » Tue Aug 01, 2006 12:06 am

avsfan4ever33 wrote:Haha Chacon... how the "mighty" have fallen.

I love how last year the Yankees fans gloated about how big a steal they got from the Rockies. Well, a year later, who looks to have got the steal? ;-7


.....the Yankees did.

Chacon got the Yankees into the playoffs last year. Without his tremendous 2nd half, the Yankees wouldn't have even made the postseason. They gave up basically nothing to acquire him, and they were able to get into the playoffs largely because of his contribution.

He played terribly this year, but he had already exceeded expectation, with his performance last year. The Yankees took a flier on him, and it got them their 10th straight playoff birth. No complaints here.

I like Chacon and I wish him the best in his future. The fact of the matter is, he didn't get the job done this year, and the Yankees made a great move by sending him to Pittsburgh for a good hitter like Wilson.
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Postby 1337_Dude » Tue Aug 01, 2006 1:05 am

I think it's a good move. Chacon hasn't been effective at all this year and Wilson can provide a nice bat off the bench.

I say good move Cashman ;-D

bigmoney wrote:yankees always "win" during the offseason and trade deadline because of their payroll...duh. few other teams wouldve taken on the contract of abreu. but it doesnt matter because the yanks only have one good starting pitcher, so it's not like they have a chance even if they make the playoffs. nice strategery cashman and steinbrenner.

Moose has been very good and Wang has been fairly effective. They don't have the best pitching in the league, but i'm sure they'll be fine.
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Postby 1337_Dude » Tue Aug 01, 2006 1:06 am

CHE wrote:
avsfan4ever33 wrote:Haha Chacon... how the "mighty" have fallen.

I love how last year the Yankees fans gloated about how big a steal they got from the Rockies. Well, a year later, who looks to have got the steal? ;-7


Not to mention in the off season, every yank fan was saying he was a good 3 starter ;-7 :-D

He was a steal at the end of last year and he was a good number three until he fell off the face of the earth.
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Postby blankman » Tue Aug 01, 2006 1:25 am

avsfan4ever33 wrote:Haha Chacon... how the "mighty" have fallen.

I love how last year the Yankees fans gloated about how big a steal they got from the Rockies. Well, a year later, who looks to have got the steal? ;-7


As Bronx said, he was a steal, because without him they would not have made the playoffs last year.
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Postby TheYanks04 » Tue Aug 01, 2006 1:31 am

Actually without him and Aaron Small who won 10 straight games last season. Unfortuantely, the smoke and mirrors seem to have run out on both. I really thought Chacon would be an OK 4th Sp for us. Obviously not. Small falling off a cliff surprised no one really.
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