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Postby bazzy_51 » Mon Jul 31, 2006 4:22 pm

just came over ESPN...Maddux and cash considerations to the Dodgers in return for SS converted over to 3B Cesar Izturis...NOW, can anyone explain this one to me...damn this irritates me i mean seriously is he gonna start over Aramis? NO and Cedeno has come on and been good as of late, hell hes been pretty good all season long so whats the point in this? besides getting something for Maddux before hes a FA but i mean come on, i think they could have gotten more out of the Padres...oh well what ya gonna do
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Postby RugbyD » Mon Jul 31, 2006 4:27 pm

I like this deal for the Cubs. gets Neifi the out of the regular lineup and Izturis is a solid enough player that the Dodgers likely wouldn't have even looked at Furcal has Izturis been healthy.
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Postby The Loveable Losers » Mon Jul 31, 2006 4:32 pm

WaCougMBS wrote:Does this make Maddux a legit pickup for the rest of the year, or is he just going to hover around the 4 ERA mark with not too many wins, etc?


The ballpark will definitely help Maddux.

Here's my projections based on the ballpark factors and the way Maddux is currently pitching as well as the Dodgers ytd offensive performance:

5.5 k/9, 1.6 bb/9, 0.89 hr/9
3.60 era, 1.223 whip
3.96 runs against / 9, 4.99 runs for / 9, xWin% 0.614

I'd expect 10 starts in the 57 remaining games on the conservative side. Maddux averages about 6.2ip per start right now so here are those numbers projected to the actual stats:

10gs, 62ip, 38k, 11bb, 6hr
Expected decisions: 62 / 8.25 = 7.515 (round up to 8)
Expected Dodgers record: 5-3 with 2 ND
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Postby TheYanks04 » Mon Jul 31, 2006 5:06 pm

Maddux is at best a number 5 now. I suppose he is better than what they were running out their in the 5 slot and Chavez Ravine will be a lot kinder than Wrigley, but he is still not likely to be a big difference maker imo.
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Postby Area51's » Mon Jul 31, 2006 5:07 pm

and getting rid of the izturis logjam (and salary for this year and next) helps too
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Postby J.C.Fighter » Mon Jul 31, 2006 5:08 pm

Maddux??? we should just give up on the season and let all the kids play'
We dont need any more over the hill vets

and kent you're a chump
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Postby TheYanks04 » Mon Jul 31, 2006 5:18 pm

J.C.Fighter wrote:Maddux??? we should just give up on the season and let all the kids play'
We dont need any more over the hill vets

and kent you're a chump



Kent has been hurt, but he has gotten the job done before and there is no reason to assume that he will not contribute if they can get him back healthy. Playing 1b would actually help him too in this regard. It is Nomar playing 3b I would worry about.
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Postby ThatDude » Mon Jul 31, 2006 5:36 pm

RugbyD wrote:I like this deal for the Cubs. gets Neifi the out of the regular lineup and Izturis is a solid enough player that the Dodgers likely wouldn't have even looked at Furcal has Izturis been healthy.


YAY! We got a guy with a career .295 OBP and .634 OPS and has a worse contract than Neifi, and we are sending them money to make it happen

They somehow managed to make their offense worse, and I didn't think that was possible. With Neifi, Cedeno, and now Izturis on the same team, we could set a record for the weakest hitting middle infield in the history of the game.


This trade makes me sick. There better be some kind of prospect involved that they haven't mentioned yet.
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Postby Havok1517 » Mon Jul 31, 2006 5:38 pm

If the Cubs get Soriano in the off season then Izturis would be the needed x-factor to counteract Soriano's defensive woes.
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Postby RugbyD » Mon Jul 31, 2006 6:02 pm

ThatDude wrote:
RugbyD wrote:I like this deal for the Cubs. gets Neifi the out of the regular lineup and Izturis is a solid enough player that the Dodgers likely wouldn't have even looked at Furcal has Izturis been healthy.


YAY! We got a guy with a career .295 OBP and .634 OPS and has a worse contract than Neifi, and we are sending them money to make it happen

They somehow managed to make their offense worse, and I didn't think that was possible. With Neifi, Cedeno, and now Izturis on the same team, we could set a record for the weakest hitting middle infield in the history of the game.


This trade makes me sick. There better be some kind of prospect involved that they haven't mentioned yet.

you're giving up on a 26-year old gold glove winner who will bat 8th anyways this quickly?
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