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Postby spacehamster01 » Mon Jul 31, 2006 3:38 pm

chrispistol3 wrote:Anyone think Oliver will immediately join the rotation?


I have a feeling probably not. Considering they have Pedro, Tracshel, Glavine, Orlando Hernandez and Maine/Pelfrey, all of which have outperformed Oliver, he should either stay in the pen or in the minors.
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Postby Fool42 » Mon Jul 31, 2006 3:39 pm

Perez "potential" has been drained for some time now. Not a bad deal for either side but not a difference maker either
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Postby DK » Mon Jul 31, 2006 3:39 pm

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Postby INKcogKNEEdough » Mon Jul 31, 2006 3:40 pm

does this get milledge back up or is he able to even play RF?
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Postby DK » Mon Jul 31, 2006 3:40 pm

chrispistol3 wrote:Anyone think Oliver will immediately join the rotation?


Doubt it. We already have Pedro, Glavine, Trachsel, Duque, Maine, AND Pelfrey. I'm all for Perez love (I'm one of his few supporters, and I think under Peterson's guidance he can really flourish), but we have a logjam of starters already. :-?

Nady's move spells either more regular time for Endy Chavez or a Milledge call-up, and Hernandez is good to fill Sanchez's shoes since he's done - I'm just wondering what we're going to do with Ollie.
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Postby Old_Style » Mon Jul 31, 2006 3:40 pm

i doubt it...he'll get some starts at the end of the year when the mets clinch the east
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Postby WaCougMBS » Mon Jul 31, 2006 4:09 pm

Anyone have any thoughts on how this will affect Perez's value/mindset? Will he fit into the 5th spot, or are they going to send/keep him down for the rest of the year? I think with a lineup like that behind him and his natural talent that he has a chance to be amazing for them, but he has been nothing short of horrible since his great 2004. Lemme know what you guys think?
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Postby stumpak » Mon Jul 31, 2006 4:22 pm

Perez is total garbage. This is like trading for Rick Ankeil for a pennant race. Even minaya would not be so stupid as to think that perez will contribute anything down the stretch this season - I would would definitely rather take my chances with the Duques and Traschels of the world. Perez must be a throw-in based on a determination be Littlefield that he had little chance of ever again succeeding in Pittsburgh.

Nady for Hernandez makes some sense, however.

So all in all, not a bad a deal, once you realize that perez is a throw-in.
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Postby DK » Mon Jul 31, 2006 5:20 pm

stumpak wrote:Perez is total garbage. This is like trading for Rick Ankeil for a pennant race. Even minaya would not be so stupid as to think that perez will contribute anything down the stretch this season - I would would definitely rather take my chances with the Duques and Traschels of the world. Perez must be a throw-in based on a determination be Littlefield that he had little chance of ever again succeeding in Pittsburgh.

Nady for Hernandez makes some sense, however.

So all in all, not a bad a deal, once you realize that perez is a throw-in.


I can't say I agree with you. Perez has been garbage but has always had a ton of talent, and Peterson's one hell of a pitching coach. I don't know if there's any problem with Perez's mechanics or arm angles, but if there are Peterson can get it sorted out and perhaps bring Perez back to 2004.
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Postby Coppermine » Mon Jul 31, 2006 5:22 pm

DK wrote:
stumpak wrote:Perez is total garbage. This is like trading for Rick Ankeil for a pennant race. Even minaya would not be so stupid as to think that perez will contribute anything down the stretch this season - I would would definitely rather take my chances with the Duques and Traschels of the world. Perez must be a throw-in based on a determination be Littlefield that he had little chance of ever again succeeding in Pittsburgh.

Nady for Hernandez makes some sense, however.

So all in all, not a bad a deal, once you realize that perez is a throw-in.


I can't say I agree with you. Perez has been garbage but has always had a ton of talent, and Peterson's one hell of a pitching coach. I don't know if there's any problem with Perez's mechanics or arm angles, but if there are Peterson can get it sorted out and perhaps bring Perez back to 2004.


He's also 24 and, as was said, certainly has potential. I think he led the league in strikeouts in '04 and I know Minaya was looking for a power pitcher. Guess we'll have to see, losing Sanchez was a bummer.
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