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Postby Bosy Billups » Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:48 pm

He has sucked the last month! Probably all these rumors. Anyway, it was a great ride while it lasted, but trade him fast!
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Postby WhiteHot » Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:55 pm

Thanks...you really backed up your coherent reasoning.
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Postby Bosy Billups » Tue Jul 25, 2006 10:02 pm

Okay, here is reasoning:

1. He is old
2. He would be a perfect setup man for a contender (i.e. Yankees)
3. Is his stuff really all that good?
4. He has a short contract with the Phillies
5. Rumors are running wild about his trade
6. he is really old
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Postby TheYanks04 » Tue Jul 25, 2006 10:09 pm

Bosy Billups wrote:Okay, here is reasoning:

1. He is old
2. He would be a perfect setup man for a contender (i.e. Yankees)
3. Is his stuff really all that good?
4. He has a short contract with the Phillies
5. Rumors are running wild about his trade
6. he is really old


1. He is indeed old for a player.
2. He has a reputation of burning out in AUgust (Torre would blow out his arm).
3. Yes, when he is not out of gas.
4. No he does not.

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06:$4.5M, 07:$7M, 08:$5.5M, 09:$4.5M club option ($1M buyout


5. Rumors are running wild about a lot of players. The Phils might trade him. but someone has to close next season and they are not likely to find anyone bette ron the free agent market.

6. Redundant.
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Postby dannahann » Tue Jul 25, 2006 10:19 pm

The Phillies as a whole aren't playing well but Gordon (along with Howard and Utley) has been among the team's brighter spots. So long as he's not overworked I see no reason to think he'll come crashing down. It's not like they have studs in that bullpen that are more deserving or capable?
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Postby byfrcp » Tue Jul 25, 2006 10:36 pm

He blew another save tonight

I traded him yesturday because I wanna get something for him in case he does get moved.
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Postby WhiteHot » Tue Jul 25, 2006 10:39 pm

byfrcp wrote:He blew another save tonight

I traded him yesturday because I wanna get something for him in case he does get moved.


He did? Rhodes got the ER for the tying run. Gordon gave up a go-ahead unearned run...then Utley tied it up in the bottom on the ninth.
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Postby Snakes Gould » Tue Jul 25, 2006 10:40 pm

Bosy Billups wrote:Okay, here is reasoning:

1. He is old
2. He would be a perfect setup man for a contender (i.e. Yankees)
3. Is his stuff really all that good?
4. He has a short contract with the Phillies
5. Rumors are running wild about his trade
6. he is really old



you're pretty much wrong in every facet of your argument....


p.s. tom gordon has some of the nastiest "stuff" in baseball...
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Postby Bosy Billups » Tue Jul 25, 2006 10:44 pm

Snakes Gould wrote:
Bosy Billups wrote:Okay, here is reasoning:

1. He is old
2. He would be a perfect setup man for a contender (i.e. Yankees)
3. Is his stuff really all that good?
4. He has a short contract with the Phillies
5. Rumors are running wild about his trade
6. he is really old



you're pretty much wrong in every facet of your argument....


p.s. tom gordon has some of the nastiest "stuff" in baseball...


Oh yea, my bad:

1. He is young
2. He would be a horrible setup many for a contender
3. His stuff is Nasty!
4. His contract is LONG with the Phillies.
5. Rumors? What rumors about an apparent trade
6. he is Really, REALLY Young.
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Postby rainman23 » Tue Jul 25, 2006 10:56 pm

Well, he is pretty old. And he has shown a real tendency to wear down the last couple years. So you're probably smart to be concerned. I'm wishing I'd been smart enough to deal him several weeks ago.

Questioning his stuff, though -- man, he wasn't doing it with mirrors the first couple months of the season. There was a period when his numbers were every bit as impressive as Ryan's and Papelbon's, and nobody was talking about him. We do "total bases allowed" in my league, and he had a K/TBA ratio like no one I'd ever seen. He made me feel smart drafting him for quite awhile.

But, again, if I actually WAS smart, I would have dealt him when he was rated top 2 or 3 overall...
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