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Postby Danimal » Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:39 pm

Who will be the next Abreu-Soriano types?

Stephen Drew?
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Postby DK » Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:44 pm

Drew, Milledge, and for more of a proven commodity Carl Crawford.
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Postby noseeum » Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:49 pm

Sizemore
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Postby Drunken Rhino » Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:51 pm

Delmon, the Brothers Upton, Hermida, Milledge, S. Drew for upcoming prospects.

More proven guys, Sizemore, Crawford and to a much lesser extent Wright, Utley & Bay (although Bay's doing his best not to this year)
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Postby The Loveable Losers » Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:01 pm

Drunken Rhino wrote:Delmon, the Brothers Upton, Hermida, Milledge, S. Drew for upcoming prospects.

More proven guys, Sizemore, Crawford and to a much lesser extent Wright, Utley & Bay (although Bay's doing his best not to this year)


Yeah, I was going to post Crawford. He's really starting to come into his own as a power threat and he's still very young. Even if his sb's drop off a little bit the added power should make him even more valuable than he is now.
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Postby TB13 » Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:59 pm

For me, I cannot see Utley and Bay stealing that much. I look at them as around 15 steals per year. Not horrible, but nothing one builds around (at least when talking about that particular aspect). I also may be one of the few, but I do not see Crawford hitting that many homers. And even if he does, I would look for him to steal less at that point. The Soriano types who year-in, year-out are 30/30 threats are few and far between.
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Postby houstonoilers » Tue Jul 25, 2006 4:03 pm

Drew stealing bases? He is a 4-Cat....but 5?


Delmon Young and I am still high on Kemp
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Postby j_d_mcnugent » Tue Jul 25, 2006 4:10 pm

in addition to the others there is felix pie. unfortunately he seems to be a lot like corey patterson.
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Postby mikhayl » Tue Jul 25, 2006 4:12 pm

I think Vernon Wells deserves a mention. I'm not sure whether he can duplicate this season ever again, but 30 HR and 20 SB seems very attainable for him.
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Postby The Loveable Losers » Tue Jul 25, 2006 4:14 pm

TB13 wrote:For me, I cannot see Utley and Bay stealing that much. I look at them as around 15 steals per year. Not horrible, but nothing one builds around (at least when talking about that particular aspect). I also may be one of the few, but I do not see Crawford hitting that many homers. And even if he does, I would look for him to steal less at that point. The Soriano types who year-in, year-out are 30/30 threats are few and far between.


The truth is that we don't have any idea how many home runs Crawford will eventually hit. There were people out there that said 15 was his CEILING before this season started. Here we are not even at the trade deadline and he's already hit 14. He'll probably end up with 20 or more home runs and he doesn't turn 25 years old for another week. He'll probably develop more power for the next 3 years or so which means it's not out of the question that he could get to the 30 mark (though I'd still say in the 22-24 range is a more reasonable ceiling).

Obviously more home runs would likely mean less sb opp's...however we're not talking about *that* many less opportunities and since he's already a 50+ guy I don't see him falling off to the point that his sb's would stop him from getting 30/30 or even 40/40. The home runs may never get there but I don't see the sb's falling below 40 until he's on the wrong side of 30 years old by quite a bit.
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