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Postby rmande09 » Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:31 pm

Keep in mind for keepers, younger guys get more consideration because it is a KEEPER league.

C
Mauer
Martinez
McCan
Johjima
Hernandez, Napoli (he's legit - he makes good contact, has power, and has a good approach)

1B
Pujols
Ortiz
Teixeira
Howard
Thome, Fielder, Morneau

2B
Utley
Kendrick (will be a monster)
Weeks
Uggla
B. Roberts, B. Philips

3B
Wright
ARod
M. Cabrera (how this kid was left off lists, I don't know)
Rolen
Figgins, Zimmerman

SS
Reyes
Tejada
Jeter
Young (the power will come)
Rollins

OF (tough to do actual order)
Beltran
Soriano
Manny
Bay
VLad
Crawford
Berkman
V. Wells
C. Lee
Ichiro
Sizemore
Abreu
Rios, Holliday, A. Jones
*Delmon Young, should be a stud in '07

SP
Santana
Liriano
Webb
Kazmir
Halladay
Cain (I'm sure I'll get crap for this, but the only thing keeping him from elite status is control, and it looks as though he has turned the corner; just 21!)
Bonderman
Carpenter
Zambrano
Verlander
Lackey, Bedard, Capuano

RP (not really worthy of keeper spots but I'll list 'em anyways)
Papelbon (may go to rotation)
Nathan
Zumaya
KRod
Ryan, Mo, Carmona, Street, Turnbow!

and...

UTIL
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C: Pierzynski
1B: Pujols
2B: Altuve
3B: Miggy
SS: HanRam
OF (x3): CarGo, M. Bourn, D. Jennings
UTIL (x2): E. Encarnacion, C. Hart
BN: Cuddyer, C. Ross, J. Montero

SP: Price, Gallardo, T. Hudson, Lester
RP: Chapman, Jansen, Rodney, Putz, Cishek, Bailey
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Postby Omaha Red Sox » Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:35 pm

First thing I noticed was Soriano at 2B. A lot depends on where he goes, but with that uncertainty, why keep a guy for 2B when he very well could never be eligible for that position again?
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Postby Niffoc4 » Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:49 pm

C I don't know if Pudge is a great keeper now that his power and patience have faded, but I don't know you can do much better

1B In a keeper I think I would move down Thome, since he is old and he has had some REALLY bad years the last couple of years (I probably bump him to 6th with Howard Morneau and Teixeira in front of him

2B This I think is the most out of whack ranking, Soriano won't have 2B eligibility next year, I guess I would do it like this
1. Utley
2. Figgins
3. Weeks
4. J. Lopez
5. Kendrick/Cano

SS I would move Young into Hanley's spot and the rest is fine

3B M-Cab at 3, with Chipper fighting with Zimmerman for the 5th spot

OF other than Vlad being so low, it seems about right
SP I would move Verlander down, he hasn't shown me as much as some others...otherwise most of my disagreements are ticky-tack things
RP They all belong in the top 6 just not necessarily in that order.
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Postby GotowarMissAgnes » Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:54 pm

rmande09 wrote:Keep in mind for keepers, younger guys get more consideration because it is a KEEPER league.


I think everybody understands that, but...

A. Even with keepers, I like to see a guy regularly put up good numbers before I grant him top 5 status. Uggla and Napoli look great, but is that their true level of ability? Sure seems far above what their minor league performances would predict, so could be fluky.

B. It's pretty unusual for a guy to immediately leap into the top 5 at his position. Kendrick might be a moster, but it's a huge leap to project him as the second best 2B in all baseball. As good as Wright was in 2005, after already having a half season under his belt, he was still only the 4th best 3B in the league.
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Postby Havok1517 » Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:00 pm

Soriano has alreayd said he will play no other postion next year except 2B...at the very least he'll have 2B eligibilty after 5-10 games. It'll be written in his contract of him playing a min. amount of games at 2B, watch.
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Postby Old_Style » Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:11 pm

C
Victor Martinez
Joe Mauer
Brian McCann
Ramon Hernandez
Kenji Johjima

1B
Albert Pujols
Ryan Howard
Mark Teixeira
David Ortiz
Jim Thome

2B
Chase Utley
Rickie Weeks
Brian Roberts
Tadahito Iguchi
Robinson Cano

3B
David Wright
Alex Rodriguez
Miguel Cabrera
Aramis Ramirez
Scott Rolen

SS
Miguel Tejada
Jose Reyes
Derek Jeter
Michael Young
Hanley Ramirez

OF
Carl Crawford
Alfonso Soriano
Manny Ramirez
Carlos Beltran
Vladimir Guerrero
Jason Bay
Ichiro
Carlos Lee
Vernon Wells
Grady Sizemore

SP
Johan Santana
Roy Halladay
Carlos Zambrano
Chris Carpenter
Francisco Liriano
Scott Kazmir
Roy Oswalt
Brandon Webb
Justin Verlander
Felix Hernandez
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Postby ThatDude » Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:26 pm

Not a single mention of Derrek Lee?

Sure he's been hurt most all of this year, but he had a 1.062 OPS before the wrist injury, and his struggles since coming back can easily be attributed to that injury, which should be fine by next Spring Training. He might be the best "buy-low" keeper out there.
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Postby Los_Dodgers » Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:27 pm

How does Thome get a keeper spot before Howard, and how is Teixera not on the list? He is the 2006 version of Carlos Beltran, IMO.
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Postby rmande09 » Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:33 pm

Ya, I did overrate Kendrick. But I think he could easily be a top 4 2B next season. His approach translates quickly and easily to the Bigs.
C: Pierzynski
1B: Pujols
2B: Altuve
3B: Miggy
SS: HanRam
OF (x3): CarGo, M. Bourn, D. Jennings
UTIL (x2): E. Encarnacion, C. Hart
BN: Cuddyer, C. Ross, J. Montero

SP: Price, Gallardo, T. Hudson, Lester
RP: Chapman, Jansen, Rodney, Putz, Cishek, Bailey
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Postby BTOWNHESS » Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:09 am

1. theres a chance Vmart wont be playing catcher at all next year and they might move him to 1st.

2. Thome shouldnt be in the top 5 for 1B, he's far too old. And Morneau Howard and ZFielder should all be ahead of him even if you had to put Thome at #5...Like a few others said, I do like Howard slighty more than Morneau as well.

3. I like Kendrick ahead of Uggla and Figgins at 2B

4. In a keeper league Zimmerman goes ahead of Chipper and Aram. Also people are down on A-Rod, but I still like him more than Wright for the next 5 years at least.

5. Bay at #7 in the OF behind Manny Wells and Sizemore is a joke.

6. I'd take Carpenter and Weaver over bedard

7. K-Rod would not be in my top 5. Id take Putz over him. He's had comparisons to Gagne by Bonds and Garret Anderson...thats high praise.
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