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Postby FalcoAtL » Sun Jul 23, 2006 2:13 am

Is Cain worth this?? I mean yeah he's a stud but Marte is pretty good himself.

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2B R Cano
3B R Zimmerman
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LF C Crisp
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RF J Drew
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A Marte
G Jenkins

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SP C Zambrano
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SP S Olsen
RP J Broxton
P A Wainwright
P J Wright
An Sanchez
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Postby Niffoc4 » Sun Jul 23, 2006 2:20 am

wow, that is a young team... I am not a huge fan of Cain, though he is quite young, and has great stuff. I personally think Marte's stock is going to skyrocket when he gets the starting job, so I would keep him...though you have Zimmerman so you don't really need another 3B.
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Postby FalcoAtL » Sun Jul 23, 2006 2:29 am

so bottom line what???
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Postby birdmandig » Sun Jul 23, 2006 2:47 am

Cain Cain Cain
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Postby Niffoc4 » Sun Jul 23, 2006 3:15 am

sorry I meander sometimes... I think you can get more if you wait, Cain has shown some flashes, but so did Daniel Cabrera (and I am still smarting from Oliver Perez's implosion) and I would rather try to move Marte for someone who is more consistent...
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Postby rmande09 » Sun Jul 23, 2006 3:26 am

Niffoc4 wrote:sorry I meander sometimes... I think you can get more if you wait, Cain has shown some flashes, but so did Daniel Cabrera (and I am still smarting from Oliver Perez's implosion) and I would rather try to move Marte for someone who is more consistent...


Cabrera is a bad example. Most young pitchers struggle wih control at first. Cain will figure it out sooner rather than later and will be an ace when he does. Plus, you have Zimmerman.
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Postby PlayingWithFire » Sun Jul 23, 2006 3:42 pm

If you can compare Cain to Cabrera and Ollie than I can compare Cain to a right handed Johan. Neither make too much sense because Cain is no where close as bad with control as either Cabrera or Ollie. Marte is the future at 3B for the Indians, but last I heard he's struggling with the glove this year. And his offensive number, though good, is not off the roof good(790ish OPS, though with very good ISOP). And if Marte struggle for an extended period of time(unlikely, I know. But stranger things have happened). They have somebody named Kevin Kouzmanoff hitting .401/.455/.687 in AA. Cain is in the majors right now and enjoying success. You have Zimmerman at the corner, I don't see why you shouldn't do this
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Postby FalcoAtL » Mon Jul 24, 2006 12:59 am

Just read the new update about Marte... Really makes me want to kep him. Is this positively the best decision for my team. I also have the #1 waiver priority in my league, and plan on using it on Gordon in Sept.
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Postby Niffoc4 » Mon Jul 24, 2006 2:17 am

You wouldn't have said Perez was totally wild say two years ago... my point is that young pitchers with control problems are unpredictable, and that a young stud hitter will be more predictably better, so if you are giving up a more sure thing, then I think you should go for a more proven SP (a month ago I would have said Dan Haren but he has struggled recently). With your depth at 3B I think dealing Marte is the right decision, I am just not sure now (before he comes up) is the right time, or if Cain is the right guy.
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Postby rmande09 » Mon Jul 24, 2006 2:27 am

You have Zimmerman, and if you plan on getting Gordon, you should trade Marte for Cain NOW!
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