Do you consider this move unethical or underhanded?

[deutschland]

trade vetoed! i guess i was quite wrong about my offer being fair.

[MMoNeY24]

trade vetoed! i guess i was quite wrong about my offer being fair.

It was better than his trade but still not good by any means in my opinion.

[Matthias]

trade vetoed! i guess i was quite wrong about my offer being fair.

You insinuated yourself in your original post that your trade wasn't fair.

While the trade is being reviewed I decide to send the new guy a "fair" offer

When you put fair in quotes, you're saying it's not really fair.

, knowing that his current trade will surely get vetoed and that these 2 guys will probably try to work out a better deal. I at least wanted to give the new guy a better idea of what someone like Santana is worth so that he doesn't get screwed by my competition.

....

To my surprise he accepts the deal.

If your deal was so "fair", then why were you suprised?

Fine. I get Santana and he gets some fair value in return (his weaknesses are saves and steals).

"some fair value" being different, of course, than "complete fair value"

It eventually gets vetoed by ESPN league commish (surprise, surprise, right?)

I'm sure that's what your friend is saying tonight.

[deutschland]

trade vetoed! i guess i was quite wrong about my offer being fair.

You insinuated yourself in your original post that your trade wasn't fair.

While the trade is being reviewed I decide to send the new guy a "fair" offer

When you put fair in quotes, you're saying it's not really fair.

no, i'm saying it's fair enough not to get vetoed IF it is accepted.

, knowing that his current trade will surely get vetoed and that these 2 guys will probably try to work out a better deal. I at least wanted to give the new guy a better idea of what someone like Santana is worth so that he doesn't get screwed by my competition.

....

To my surprise he accepts the deal.

If your deal was so "fair", then why were you suprised?

because the guy has been an absentee owner most of the year and has never responded to a trade offer.

Fine. I get Santana and he gets some fair value in return (his weaknesses are saves and steals).

"some fair value" being different, of course, than "complete fair value"

so what? do you run all of your trade offers through a matrix before sending them out to make sure they are exactly equal in value?

It eventually gets vetoed by ESPN league commish (surprise, surprise, right?)

I'm sure that's what your friend is saying tonight.

actually my friend was surprised that the trade was vetoed. i'm not whining about the trade getting vetoed, just a bit shocked. i think i was pretty upfront in my post about what i thought of the original trade and my proposal that was accepted. i put "fair" in quotes because most people would say I win that trade by getting Sanatana, but I certainly don't think it was grossly unbalanced, plus (you'd have to see the league standings and team rosters, I suppose) i was offering the guy stats that he needed to improve in the standings. anyway, i guess it just wasn't enough for Johan.