To earn a save the pitcher must
A. Pitch last for his team in a game his team wins AND
B. Not be the winning pitcher AND
C.
1. Pitch at least 1 inning (3 outs) with no more than a 3 run lead OR
2. Pitch with the potential tying run on base, at bat, or on deck.

So basically, part C.2. is the tricky part.
Hope that helps.

Thome was the first to bat in the ninth and he has rocked Jones in the past. They went with a left specialist to get him out and then brought in Jones to finish.

Smart in real baseball but has fantasy owners whining about their save they lost.

Basically I'm complicated.
I have a hard time taking the easy way
I wouldn't call it schizophrenia
But Ill be at least two people today

RRGL1 wrote:To earn a save the pitcher must A. Pitch last for his team in a game his team wins AND B. Not be the winning pitcher AND C. 1. Pitch at least 1 inning (3 outs) with no more than a 3 run lead OR 2. Pitch with the potential tying run on base, at bat, or on deck.

So basically, part C.2. is the tricky part. I think of it this way: if the number of men on base + the number of outs remaining in the 9th is equal to or less than the lead, then a save is earned.

Example: 2 on, 1 out, 4 run lead. Closer enters the 9th and gets the final 2 outs and he gets a save. 2 on + 2 outs remaining equals the lead of 4. 1 on, 1 out, 4 run lead. Closer enters the 9th and gets the final 2 outs and does not get a save. 1 on + 2 outs remaining is less than the lead of 4.

Not that it's relevant to why Jones didn't get a save, but there's one more caveat to the rule I'll throw in: If a pitcher "pitches effectively for at least three innings," he can earn a save. It's subjective and decided by the official scorer, from what I understand.

So, basically, even if your team is up by 14, you can get a save if you pitch the seventh, eighth and ninth. I'm pretty sure that only happens in video games, though.

RRGL1 wrote:To earn a save the pitcher must A. Pitch last for his team in a game his team wins AND B. Not be the winning pitcher AND C. 1. Pitch at least 1 inning (3 outs) with no more than a 3 run lead OR 2. Pitch with the potential tying run on base, at bat, or on deck.

So basically, part C.2. is the tricky part. I think of it this way: if the number of men on base + the number of outs remaining in the 9th is equal to or less than the lead, then a save is earned.

Example: 2 on, 1 out, 4 run lead. Closer enters the 9th and gets the final 2 outs and he gets a save. 2 on + 2 outs remaining equals the lead of 4. 1 on, 1 out, 4 run lead. Closer enters the 9th and gets the final 2 outs and does not get a save. 1 on + 2 outs remaining is less than the lead of 4.

Not that it's relevant to why Jones didn't get a save, but there's one more caveat to the rule I'll throw in: If a pitcher "pitches effectively for at least three innings," he can earn a save. It's subjective and decided by the official scorer, from what I understand.

So, basically, even if your team is up by 14, you can get a save if you pitch the seventh, eighth and ninth. I'm pretty sure that only happens in video games, though.