my admiration for him is deep--he really is (or was) an all-around star.
however, in explanation of my disdain for this player, he stands so close to the plate...SO CLOSE, and he wears that newfoundland dog on his right arm, daring the pitcher to throw in on him.
stand close to the plate and get hit. that's fine. i respect that. biggio does it all the time, takes it like a man. olmeido saenz did it for the a's last year. fine. but they're not sporting the winter parka on the pitcher-side arm. it's just not fair. and the looks he gives pitchers when he's hit...i could climb through the tv and wack him with a folding chair. ok, that's over the top. but i get extremely annoyed.
this manipulation, so liberally tolerated by mlb (because the man puts butts in the seats) is what really pisses me off. if you mummified me in a thick rubber and nylon, i could take a good bean, too. that basically *gives* the batter the plate. the only strike a pitcher can throw without *hitting* him is the outside half. that sure narrows it down, doesn't it?
but i do respect his numbers, work ethic and longevity. let me dislike the bastard, and i'll let you like him.
Anonymous wrote:The guy has almost 500 stolen bases. That isn't too "one-dimensional" too me.
Early in his carear he was a great base runner, however after he gained about 100 pounds and his hat size went from a 6 to a 9 "Just by working out and no steroids or anything" in about a year he really slowed down. He can still steal when he needs to but he hasn't been a big threat in a few years. He is a homerun hitter and can hit for avg. He is nowhere near the best at his posistion and he should not be considered with any of the best of all time. Imagine what Ruth, Aron and other power hitters of there time could have done if they had been on the juice. Hell watch out for Pierre, he could be the next to get on the juice and bulk up and do 500/500. Bonds is a disgrace.
Anonymous wrote:The guy has almost 500 stolen bases. That isn't too "one-dimensional" too me.
Early in his carear he was a great base runner, however after he gained about 100 pounds and his hat size went from a 6 to a 9 "Just by working out and no steroids or anything" in about a year he really slowed down. He can still steal when he needs to but he hasn't been a big threat in a few years. He is a homerun hitter and can hit for avg. He is nowhere near the best at his posistion and he should not be considered with any of the best of all time. Imagine what Ruth, Aron and other power hitters of there time could have done if they had been on the juice. Hell watch out for Pierre, he could be the next to get on the juice and bulk up and do 500/500. Bonds is a disgrace.
God, do you ever shut up, you say the same stuff in ALL your posts. like that one guy said.
"if IF and Buts were candy and nuts... we would all be happy and fat"
Bonds is one of the best of all time. First of all he was cranking out 30 -40 HR years well be for the explosive HR era baseball is in today. Search your memory wayback, when the Pirates where contenders for a few years and Bonds was pounding out 30-40 HR .300 30+ SB 100RBI years, thats when 4-5 run games were considered somewhat high scoreing. Didnt he win an MVP or two also in that time frame?
He did take steroids later in his career. I have seen a few before and after photos of 2000 then to 2001. He put on like 35#'s of rip muscle in one off season. That is almost geneiticaly impossible without the help of roids. Then wouldnt you know it? The HR record gets broken again.
He might be a great athlete defensively but he is bye no means one of the best defensive players of all time. He probably ( I have no stat reference to support this ) leads all time defenders in allowing doubles and singles off the wall because he stood there nonchalantly watching what he thought would be a HR hit the wall. No excuse for that. On the flipside he has also shorted himself countless double because he was too busy slowly trotting and watching what he thought would be a HR for him hit the wall, shorting his double or triple into a single.
So I say all that to say this............. He is one of the most gifted and best players of all time. Personality wise he is still a jacka$$ though. No telling what those extra base hits he shorted himself could have done for his already astounding slugging percentage, which I believe is higher than Ruth's.
"Son we would like to keep you around here but were trying to win a pennant this year."
eftda wrote:are you new to baseball, he had the highest batting avg in the NL last year, and 12 hits shy of .400. (lets say he went 0-12, well he if he went 12-12 then he would have had .400)
eftda wrote:are you new to baseball, he had the highest batting avg in the NL last year, and 12 hits shy of .400. (lets say he went 0-12, well he if he went 12-12 then he would have had .400)
12-12 would put him at 161-415 which is a .388 batting average.
.388 != .400
Please refrain from sassing people when you cannot even get the facts straight yourself.
hey, my point still stands, he doesn't know about baseball, Bonds led the NL in avg, just becuase i didn't do the math and just wrote down from what i heard on baseball tonight doesn't mean that I am new to baseball. I was new in 97 not 03
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