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Postby Havok1517 » Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:47 pm

I assume it would be Madson or Bruto but if the Phillies do a deal with the White Sox maybe Politte could be involved?
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Postby MMoNeY24 » Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:47 pm

Esen wrote:its also in todays NY Post, he is mentioned as possibly being on the block along with Abreu and Lieber


Yankees could use Gordon and Lieber.

Oh wait. ;-7
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Postby teddyballgamemvp » Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:11 pm

Havok1517 wrote:I assume it would be Madson or Bruto but if the Phillies do a deal with the White Sox maybe Politte could be involved?


Politte is so bad that Ozzie only used him in the 19-inning game when he had no one else to use.
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Postby WhiteHot » Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:39 pm

Havok1517 wrote:I assume it would be Madson or Bruto but if the Phillies do a deal with the White Sox maybe Politte could be involved?


Bruto? Didn't he get sent back to the minors?

I'd look at Rhodes or maybe Franklin.
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Postby mcliffy2 » Fri Jul 14, 2006 3:28 pm

I'm loving this because the first place guy in our league has Gordon, Rios (may be ineffective this year), and Manny (also w/ injury worries)...and has Sheffield and Sheets on the DL already.

Here is an article with details:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/w ... ml?cnn=yes

From Sports Illustrated:
A decidedly drab pitching market is on the verge of receiving a major shot in the arm. The White Sox are sending out word that they're willing to trade one of two veteran front-line starters -- either Freddy Garcia or Javier Vazquez -- if a team will relinquish a top-flight setup man. One potential target is Phillies All-Star closer Tom Gordon.

If anything's weaker than the starting-pitching market right now, it's the relief market. But if anyone's capable of injecting life into both markets simultaneously, it's White Sox general manager Ken Williams, who has outworked and outmaneuvered virtually everyone else the last couple of years.

Immediately, Garcia (10-5, 4.91 ERA) and Vazquez (9-4, 5.07) become the top starters available.

The reason Williams is amenable to dealing a stud starter is two-fold: 1) He has five first-rate starters, plus one young dynamo, Brandon McCarthy, ready for the rotation; and 2) he doesn't have the deep bullpen he had last year, when the Sox won their first World Series in nearly nine decades and relievers Luis Vizcaino, Damaso Marte, Dustin Hermanson and Cliff Politte all contributed. This season, Vizcaino's in Arizona, Marte's in Pittsburgh, Hermanson's on the disabled list and Politte may as well be (8.04 ERA).

The White Sox are targeting a list of top relievers, and it's believed that roster includes the Mets' Duaner Sanchez, the Dodgers' hot-shot rookie Jonathan Broxton and especially ex-Sox setup man Gordon, who has a more-than-decent chance to be part of a Philadelphia fire sale and would work nicely in front of the Sox' All-Star closer Bobby Jenks. Gordon made a point of telling friends at the All-Star Game that while he's enjoying Philly, he wouldn't mind returning to Chicago's South Side.

The feeling is mutual. Three winters ago White Sox officials were upset when they believed that Gordon, who grew very close to Williams, reneged on an agreement to return before signing with the Yankees for more money. But all is forgiven now, as Gordon looks like a potential answer to the White Sox' worrisome bullpen. He's a veteran with American League success and White Sox experience who's been through the playoff wars.
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Postby converge241 » Fri Jul 14, 2006 4:26 pm

some rumored deals might provide phillies with their new closer
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Postby BronXBombers51 » Fri Jul 14, 2006 4:34 pm

MMoNeY24 wrote:
Esen wrote:its also in todays NY Post, he is mentioned as possibly being on the block along with Abreu and Lieber


Yankees could use Gordon and Lieber.

Oh wait. ;-7


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Postby WhiteHot » Fri Jul 14, 2006 4:42 pm

As well as Gordon has been doing, the Phillies need to blow up their roster.

Trading an aging Gordon for a relatively young starter would be solid.

They also need to get rid of Manuel, Abreu, and Burrell.
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Postby Amazing Oopah » Fri Jul 14, 2006 5:45 pm

The Phillies aren't going anywhere this season. Time to unload all the heavy contracts for prospects and serviceable major leaguers.
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Postby blankman » Fri Jul 14, 2006 5:50 pm

Yankees should get him to fix what they should have done this offseason- sign Gordon at all costs. Look what's happened to this bullpen without him. :-t
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