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Postby master453 » Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:10 pm

some recent buzz about tom gordon on the block, maybe going to be a setup man somewhere. who steps up for saves in philly? rhoades? franklin? madson? someone from AAA?
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Postby yankee_cafe » Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:29 pm

I'd guess Rhodes, but he didn't have a nice go of it the last time he was given the role.
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Postby rainman23 » Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:51 pm

Do you have any source for this rumor? Why you'd bring a guy in to be your closer, have him excel from his first (ok, second) appearance, and then shop him around...I don't get it.
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Postby teddyballgamemvp » Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:51 pm

Who in the world can afford Gordon's contract for a setup guy? The Mets, Yanks, Red Sox?
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Postby MashinSpuds » Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:01 pm

It's also conceivable that, since Williamson now is reportedly on the block (Rotoworld), the Phillies could do a threeway to get him to close and send Gordon off to some rich team.

Any idea how long Gordon's contract is? If it's only for a year then, well, punt if you're out of it.
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Postby stumpak » Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:05 pm

There tons of Gordon rumors floating around. The ChiSox and Yanks are most prominent.
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Postby j_d_mcnugent » Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:20 pm

MashinSpuds wrote:
Any idea how long Gordon's contract is? If it's only for a year then, well, punt if you're out of it.


three years at 18 million (ends in 2008). thats a little bit high if he is to be used as a setup man but i guess not all that bad considering some of the other deals.
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Postby teddyballgamemvp » Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:29 pm

j_d_mcnugent wrote:
MashinSpuds wrote:
Any idea how long Gordon's contract is? If it's only for a year then, well, punt if you're out of it.


three years at 18 million (ends in 2008). thats a little bit high if he is to be used as a setup man but i guess not all that bad considering some of the other deals.


FA setup men who are seen as established, reliable vets make $3-4M. Gordon averages $6M, and his contract is back-loaded ($7M and $5.5-- he gets $1M in 2009 whether Philly picks up his option or not). That is crazy money for a setup guy.
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Postby sportsguy138 » Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:30 pm

rainman23 wrote:Do you have any source for this rumor? Why you'd bring a guy in to be your closer, have him excel from his first (ok, second) appearance, and then shop him around...I don't get it.


yes.. there is a source.. from rotoworld

According to a source, the Phillies are willing to give up Tom Gordon in a deal with the White Sox for either Freddy Garcia or Javier Vazquez.
The Mets have also expressed some interest in Flash. After the Nationals-Reds trade, it's obvious that good relievers are at a premium. Jul. 14 - 10:39 am et
Source: New York Daily News
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Postby Esen » Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:38 pm

its also in todays NY Post, he is mentioned as possibly being on the block along with Abreu and Lieber
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