Liriano gave up more than three runs for the first time since returning to a SP and some of you are saying the kids having a bad outing. I would take this bad outing any day of the week especially when you consider:
A. His traveling schedule as a last minute addition to the All-Star team after being in another country because he thought he was going to get some time off.
B. He's playing the Cleveland Indians who have a very very good offense.
C. He is still a young pitcher but is just technically a rookie. He has had more experience in the majors already than guys like Hamels, Lester, Billingsly, etc. He was starting games at the end of last season, had a long run in the bullpen, and was worked back into the starting role the way he should have been.
Even after last night's game he is still the best pitcher in my Yahoo format for the month and is only second to Johan for the season for strictly SP (Paps is #1 in our league b/c he still has SP placement as well as RP placement).
I understand the theory of selling high and going out and looking for a big bat but you'd better get a lot more than what you are getting in th is deal. I'm not saying that you said he had a bad outing but I really wish I was in a money league with the people that do think that way, I would be plundering and pilledging your teams on a weekly basis.
Compare Johan's numbers either of the first two seasons he started more than 10 games, to that of what Liriano is doing this year. Francisco is on pace to have more wins, more strikeouts, and a better ERA and WHIP than Johan did when he had his breakout year. I know that no one is untradeable but looking at it from this perspective, I'd have to be getting a hell of a lot.
teddyballgamemvp wrote:If you're in a keeper, any Liriano owner should try to spin him for two excellent pitchers while you can.
I agree with this. Look at how much hype Felix had last year. If I were in a one-year league, I might have faith in Liriano to finish the season strong, but in the future, as teams see him more times he'll go through his rough patches. So if I were in a keeper and someone were willing to give me first or second round talent then I'd take it.
however, the difference is Liriano's change-up and that he knows how to use it. Felix had his fastball and curve, but Liriano changes speeds all over with his pitches AND has that Johan-esque change-up. which, we all know, is what makes Johan Johan.
this is all lip-service and opinion now - we'll see as time moves on.