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Postby Simply Dangerous » Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:43 pm

I have Gorzelanny and Jer Weaver but I am thinking of picking up Pelfrey and dropping one of the 2 that I have already.

Which of the 3 would you rather have in a keeper?
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Postby PlayingWithFire » Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:47 pm

Weaver
Pelfrey
Gorzelanny

but Weaver's delivery will eventually wear out. Pelfrey is a risk at this point.
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Postby Simply Dangerous » Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:50 pm

PlayingWithFire wrote:Weaver
Pelfrey
Gorzelanny

but Weaver's delivery will eventually wear out. Pelfrey is a risk at this point.


wear out meaning likely to cause a future injury or wear out meaning the league will figure it out?
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Postby PlayingWithFire » Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:52 pm

Simply Dangerous wrote:
PlayingWithFire wrote:Weaver
Pelfrey
Gorzelanny

but Weaver's delivery will eventually wear out. Pelfrey is a risk at this point.


wear out meaning likely to cause a future injury or wear out meaning the league will figure it out?


both, but more likely the later. The delivery is scary but Weaver doesn't have a record of injury so I'm not that concerned
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Postby rmande09 » Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:31 pm

Ummm.... Pelfrey without question. Then Weaver. And in a distant third, Gorzellany.
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Postby Sunspot » Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:20 am

Why would someone pick Pelfrey over Weaver? What am I missing here? Weaver has been a complete stud.....IN THE MAJORS!!!...Pelfrey was a stud........IN AA!!!!!! Pelfrey might end up better, but all 5 of Weavers starts have been better than Pelfeys 1.
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Postby PlayingWithFire » Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:25 am

Sunspot wrote:Why would someone pick Pelfrey over Weaver? What am I missing here? Weaver has been a complete stud.....IN THE MAJORS!!!...Pelfrey was a stud........IN AA!!!!!! Pelfrey might end up better, but all 5 of Weavers starts have been better than Pelfeys 1.


Have you ever watched Weaver pitch? Now try that delivery yourself and see if it feels comfortable. Injury is a risk, also hitters will figure his delivery out and well, having a brother named Jeff who's also all stuff but no brain doesn't help either.
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Postby Sunspot » Wed Jul 12, 2006 12:23 pm

So if Pelfrey and Weaver were both sitting on the waiver wire right now, you would choose Pelfrey? I don't believe that. Jared Weaver makes Jeff Weaver look like Ozzie Canseco! You really think because he is Jeff Weavers brother that that decreases his value? Ba!
1. Jared has no injury history
2. Has a very solid major league sample to look at
3. I wish I was in a league where owners get scared of funky deliverys, I could get some good pitchers for cheap!
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Postby PlayingWithFire » Wed Jul 12, 2006 12:30 pm

Sunspot wrote:So if Pelfrey and Weaver were both sitting on the waiver wire right now, you would choose Pelfrey? I don't believe that. Jared Weaver makes Jeff Weaver look like Ozzie Canseco! You really think because he is Jeff Weavers brother that that decreases his value? Ba!
1. Jared has no injury history
2. Has a very solid major league sample to look at
3. I wish I was in a league where owners get scared of funky deliverys, I could get some good pitchers for cheap!


I think he's in a dynasty so long term value goes first. Even with that considered I ranked Weaver first with a warning.
1)Yes, Jered has no injury history, but neither did Dan Meyer before last year, it can come at any time.
2)No he doesn't
3)in a redraft or just keeper with few keepers I'd go with Weaver but in a dynasty or a league where you keep like 10 minor leaguers, I'd still go Weaver, but just by a hair and if anything goes wrong he's back on the WW
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Postby rmande09 » Wed Jul 12, 2006 5:21 pm

It's not close. Weaver doesn't have a true outpitch and all of his stuff is slightly above average. Pelfrey has a plus-plus fastball, a plus-breaking ball, and a work-in-progress change that has plus potential but is only currently average. In a keeper, Pelfrey without question. For a non-keeper, Weaver.
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