Rank these arms please...

[madstork43]

Kevin Slowey
Humberto Sanchez
Scott Elbert
Redhames Liz
Gary Reynolds

thanks

[MrSnider]

I like Sanchez, Liz, and Elbert in that order. I don't know much about the other two, but I do know that both Sanchez and Liz are studs.

[madstork43]

yeah im debating whether or not i should drop any of the following arms in order to pick up the aforementioned players...

Troy Patton (SP) Astros
Thomas Diamond (SP) Rangers
Fausto Carmona (SP) Indians
Dustin McGowan (SP) Blue Jays

[hybrid]

yeah im debating whether or not i should drop any of the following arms in order to pick up the aforementioned players...

Troy Patton (SP) Astros
Thomas Diamond (SP) Rangers
Fausto Carmona (SP) Indians
Dustin McGowan (SP) Blue Jays

I'd probably drop Diamon and Carmona (or maybe McGowen) for Sanchez and Elbert.

[madstork43]

ok sanchez just got drafted, so it is still safe to say that you would drop diamond, carmona or mcgowan for elbert? or even liz or slowey?

[hybrid]

Yeah I'm not a big fan of Diamond and Elbert is developing into one of the better pitching prospects behind Bailey/Hughes.

[madstork43]

are you not big on diamond because he will be pitching in texas? or are you not impressed with his stuff?

on a side note, if elbert gets drafted before it gets back to me, should i still grab liz or slowey for diamond as well?

thanks again...

[J35J]

are you not big on diamond because he will be pitching in texas? or are you not impressed with his stuff?

on a side note, if elbert gets drafted before it gets back to me, should i still grab liz or slowey for diamond as well?

thanks again...

Diamond, and Liz for that matter, don't have very good control at all. Diamond is sitting on over 5 BB/9 and Liz is close to 5 BB/9. Even Elbert needs to get better with the walks but he is a couple years younger than Liz and Diamond.

1. Slowey

2. Elbert

3. Liz

4. Diamond


Jason

[madstork43]

thanks a bunch...

can you rank Mcgowan and Patton in that list as well?

thanks for all the help guys

[rmande09]

Liz is very young and still has a long way to go. Control is usually the last thing that comes to a young pitcher.

Slowey will probably be a AAAA pitcher. He's the guy who will do well at AAA then get rocked in the Bigs.

It's tough to rank these guys, but it'd probably look something like this:

Humberto Sanchez
Radhames Liz
Troy Patton
Scott Elbert
Fausto Carmona
Thomas Diamond
Dustin McGowan
Kevin Slowey
Gary Reynolds

Sanchez looks to have the most polish, best stuff, and is closest to being ready for a starters gig in the Bigs.

Liz has a ridiculously high ceiling, though he still has a ways to go.

Something about Patton just gets me. I think he'll be a helluva pitcher at some point. He should be ready to contribute next year.

If Elbert can ever develop an above-average third offering, he'll be #1 on this list. He's very good in all departments of pitching (stuff, control, poise), but he only has a fastball and a hook, both plus-offerings.

Diamond still has a lot of potential but a couple things bother me. One, he's pitching in Texas, and 2. His control. Still young and can develop. Though I'd rank Danks ahead of him.

McGowan... Not a fan. Should get a chance in the rotation in a second-half, but I don't think he has the stuff to be much of an impact in fantasy leagues.

You have my opinion on Slowey.

Know nothing on Gary Reynolds, just figuring if he was anything special, I'd know something about him.

Oh, and I forgot Fausto - I don't think he has much of a career ahead of him as a starter, but he could be the Indians' closer as soon as next year. He has a good fastball and good breaking pitch.