davidmarver wrote:<pre> W L K ERA WHIP BAA OPS Chris Young 8 4 104 3.12 1.09 .205 .646 Roy Oswalt 6 6 81 3.15 1.24 .278 .736 Chris Capuano 10 4 112 3.21 1.18 .256 .679</pre> And you guys are complaining about Chris Capuano not making it?
dude, all three guys have almost the exact same ERA. How can you whine about any of the 3? Don't even talk to me about W-L. Less-informed fans look at that, but it means nothing as to how good a pitcher is. With all three having similar stats (the ones that count), Oswalt has a better track record. He's a perfectly reasonable pick, and not just because his manager is in charge of the team.
Did you even look at those statistics? Batters are hitting .205 against Chris Young, while they're batting .278 against Roy Oswalt. Their OPS against Young is .646 while it's .736 against Oswalt. Young has struck out 23 more batters in less innings. Young's WHIP is .15 lower than Oswalt's. The only thing the two are remotely similar in is ERA, where Young still wins.
And Oswalt has give up less BB, less HR, and has pitched more IP including 2 CG's.
edit: Forgot to add that Young pitches in a extreme pitchers park.
Not to mention that a high BAA with a low ERA means that a pitcher is better at getting out of jams. But the main thing is, the most iimportant thing a pitcher can do is not give up runs. The ERA is by far the biggest thing a pitcher can bring to your team. With Oswalt pitching in Houston, and Young in Petco, and Capuano in the more-neutral Miller, their stats are really a wash. It's like complaining that a rookie OF has a .002 higher batting average than the veteran who made the team. It's ridiculous.
(taps little picture of a microphone)... is this thing on?
With Oswalt pitching in Houston, and Young in Petco, and Capuano in the more-neutral Miller, their stats are really a wash. It's like complaining that a rookie OF has a .002 higher batting average than the veteran who made the team. It's ridiculous.
No, it's like arguing that a .373 hitter with a .990 OPS should start the all-star game over the .300 hitter with a .900 OPS. It's the same difference in metrics.
Not to mention that a high BAA with a low ERA means that a pitcher is better at getting out of jams.
Chris Young's LOB% is 82.8% (the highest in the National League) while Oswalt's is 77.5%. Looks like Young is better than Oswalt in jams. Nice theory .
No, it's like arguing that a .373 hitter with a .990 OPS should start the all-star game over the .300 hitter with a .900 OPS. It's the same difference in metrics.
All Young has is a low BABIP of .243. Oswalt is at .309.
Low BABIP leads to low BAA which leads to low WHIP and low OPS. It's almost the same stat just presented 4 different ways.
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by bigh0rt » Sun Jul 09, 2006 1:03 pm 
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