New All-Star Game rule?

[suppasonic]

track record

I'm not going to argue for either Cap or Os, but track record should have absolutely nothing to do with it. It's the 2006 all-star game, not the 2000-2006 all-star game.

Yet track record is why nearly every player is voted to the all-star game. Jason Varitek? Not doing hot this year, but he has a history of success and is recognizable.

[DevilDriver]

track record

I'm not going to argue for either Cap or Os, but track record should have absolutely nothing to do with it. It's the 2006 all-star game, not the 2000-2006 all-star game.

Track record has alot to do with the All-Star Game. Who would you rather want to see in the starting OF - Vladimir Guerrero or Raul Ibanez, who's having a statistically better season? That's what I thought.

[davidmarver]

<pre> W L K ERA WHIP BAA OPS
Chris Young 8 4 104 3.12 1.09 .205 .646
Roy Oswalt 6 6 81 3.15 1.24 .278 .736
Chris Capuano 10 4 112 3.21 1.18 .256 .679</pre>
And you guys are complaining about Chris Capuano not making it?

[citybirds27]

I think there should be a rule against whining about the All-Star rosters.

[J.C.Fighter]

This is a crime

Crawford should be on this gotdamn All-star team

they guy has hit 10+ hr's w/ 30 + stolen bases

and a .320 avg on the side


unbelievable

[EugeneStyles]

<pre> W L K ERA WHIP BAA OPS
Chris Young 8 4 104 3.12 1.09 .205 .646
Roy Oswalt 6 6 81 3.15 1.24 .278 .736
Chris Capuano 10 4 112 3.21 1.18 .256 .679</pre>
And you guys are complaining about Chris Capuano not making it?

dude, all three guys have almost the exact same ERA. How can you whine about any of the 3? Don't even talk to me about W-L. Less-informed fans look at that, but it means nothing as to how good a pitcher is. With all three having similar stats (the ones that count), Oswalt has a better track record. He's a perfectly reasonable pick, and not just because his manager is in charge of the team.

[davidmarver]

<pre> W L K ERA WHIP BAA OPS
Chris Young 8 4 104 3.12 1.09 .205 .646
Roy Oswalt 6 6 81 3.15 1.24 .278 .736
Chris Capuano 10 4 112 3.21 1.18 .256 .679</pre>
And you guys are complaining about Chris Capuano not making it?

dude, all three guys have almost the exact same ERA. How can you whine about any of the 3? Don't even talk to me about W-L. Less-informed fans look at that, but it means nothing as to how good a pitcher is. With all three having similar stats (the ones that count), Oswalt has a better track record. He's a perfectly reasonable pick, and not just because his manager is in charge of the team.

Did you even look at those statistics?
Batters are hitting .205 against Chris Young, while they're batting .278 against Roy Oswalt. Their OPS against Young is .646 while it's .736 against Oswalt. Young has struck out 23 more batters in less innings. Young's WHIP is .15 lower than Oswalt's. The only thing the two are remotely similar in is ERA, where Young still wins.

[bleach168]

<pre> W L K ERA WHIP BAA OPS
Chris Young 8 4 104 3.12 1.09 .205 .646
Roy Oswalt 6 6 81 3.15 1.24 .278 .736
Chris Capuano 10 4 112 3.21 1.18 .256 .679</pre>
And you guys are complaining about Chris Capuano not making it?

dude, all three guys have almost the exact same ERA. How can you whine about any of the 3? Don't even talk to me about W-L. Less-informed fans look at that, but it means nothing as to how good a pitcher is. With all three having similar stats (the ones that count), Oswalt has a better track record. He's a perfectly reasonable pick, and not just because his manager is in charge of the team.

Did you even look at those statistics?
Batters are hitting .205 against Chris Young, while they're batting .278 against Roy Oswalt. Their OPS against Young is .646 while it's .736 against Oswalt. Young has struck out 23 more batters in less innings. Young's WHIP is .15 lower than Oswalt's. The only thing the two are remotely similar in is ERA, where Young still wins.

And Oswalt has give up less BB, less HR, and has pitched more IP including 2 CG's.

edit: Forgot to add that Young pitches in a extreme pitchers park.

[davidmarver]

<pre> W L K ERA WHIP BAA OPS
Chris Young 8 4 104 3.12 1.09 .205 .646
Roy Oswalt 6 6 81 3.15 1.24 .278 .736
Chris Capuano 10 4 112 3.21 1.18 .256 .679</pre>
And you guys are complaining about Chris Capuano not making it?

dude, all three guys have almost the exact same ERA. How can you whine about any of the 3? Don't even talk to me about W-L. Less-informed fans look at that, but it means nothing as to how good a pitcher is. With all three having similar stats (the ones that count), Oswalt has a better track record. He's a perfectly reasonable pick, and not just because his manager is in charge of the team.

Did you even look at those statistics?
Batters are hitting .205 against Chris Young, while they're batting .278 against Roy Oswalt. Their OPS against Young is .646 while it's .736 against Oswalt. Young has struck out 23 more batters in less innings. Young's WHIP is .15 lower than Oswalt's. The only thing the two are remotely similar in is ERA, where Young still wins.

And Oswalt has give up less BB, less HR, and has pitched more IP including 2 CG's.

edit: Forgot to add that Young pitches in a extreme pitchers park.

Petco Park doesn't effect batting average by 73 points, nor does it effect OPS by almost 100. Young has pitched better than Oswalt this season, as have a ton of other pitchers, there's really no way around that.

[Sunspot]

To those guys that keep writing that there should be a rule against whining about the All-Star rosters: Eat Me

Isn't the whole point of the cafe to Discuss, Debate, Vent, Whine, Cheer, etc. ?