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Postby Ender » Sun Jul 09, 2006 10:10 am

I'll take Pujols, nobody in the game I'd rather have up for me at any point in any situation.
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Postby CheeseBeger » Sun Jul 09, 2006 10:44 am

Wow this thread took a life of its own. I was going more for the "Zimmerman for ROY" than who likes Poholes.
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Postby BronXBombers51 » Sun Jul 09, 2006 11:45 am

HOOTIE wrote:wOBA is weighted oba. It's a formula based off run values by events. A bit like ops, but ops has flaws in it.

Retrosheet.org has a history of boxscores to find per game events.

If you want to explore things more, i suggest TangoTigers book, Playing The Percentages In Baseball.


Thank you. ;-D
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Postby Kurtangletn » Sun Jul 09, 2006 12:33 pm

Stats aren't going to tell me who I want up. You can try to put clutch stats together but it just simply doesn't add up. You're either a clutch hitter or your not. Arod is not a clutch hitter, Ortiz is.

Its Ortiz, when i'm watching the game and its a close game or the game is on the line and he's up, I feel that its more likely to happen then not. I'm actually now shocked when he doesn't come up in the clutch.

Say what you want but thats just how I feel and the majority of people feel.
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Postby The Miner Part 2 » Sun Jul 09, 2006 1:29 pm

BronXBombers51 wrote:
HOOTIE wrote:wOBA is weighted oba. It's a formula based off run values by events. A bit like ops, but ops has flaws in it.

Retrosheet.org has a history of boxscores to find per game events.

If you want to explore things more, i suggest TangoTigers book, Playing The Percentages In Baseball.


Thank you. ;-D


is it possible to find a players numbers from the 7th inning on, and the game is close?
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Postby BronXBombers51 » Sun Jul 09, 2006 2:13 pm

The Miner Part 2 wrote:
BronXBombers51 wrote:
HOOTIE wrote:wOBA is weighted oba. It's a formula based off run values by events. A bit like ops, but ops has flaws in it.

Retrosheet.org has a history of boxscores to find per game events.

If you want to explore things more, i suggest TangoTigers book, Playing The Percentages In Baseball.


Thank you. ;-D


is it possible to find a players numbers from the 7th inning on, and the game is close?


"Close and Late" stats. You can find them under any player's splits on their ESPN page.
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Postby BronXBombers51 » Sun Jul 09, 2006 2:14 pm

Kurtangletn wrote:Stats aren't going to tell me who I want up. You can try to put clutch stats together but it just simply doesn't add up. You're either a clutch hitter or your not. Arod is not a clutch hitter, Ortiz is.

Its Ortiz, when i'm watching the game and its a close game or the game is on the line and he's up, I feel that its more likely to happen then not. I'm actually now shocked when he doesn't come up in the clutch.

Say what you want but thats just how I feel and the majority of people feel.


So what if I felt more comfortable in a clutch situation with A-Rod up?
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Postby The Miner Part 2 » Sun Jul 09, 2006 2:20 pm

BronXBombers51 wrote:
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BronXBombers51 wrote:
HOOTIE wrote:wOBA is weighted oba. It's a formula based off run values by events. A bit like ops, but ops has flaws in it.

Retrosheet.org has a history of boxscores to find per game events.

If you want to explore things more, i suggest TangoTigers book, Playing The Percentages In Baseball.


Thank you. ;-D


is it possible to find a players numbers from the 7th inning on, and the game is close?


"Close and Late" stats. You can find them under any player's splits on their ESPN page.


nice, thanks.

well over the last 3 year stretch, basically when papi has become a superstar, his close and late numbers shows him as being clutch.

i agree that "clutch" as a whole doesnt exsist. but isnt it possible for exceptions to the rule?
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