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Postby johnsamo » Tue Jul 04, 2006 6:10 pm

A-Rod in a Cubbie uniform... The NL Central pitchers just let out a collective shudder.

Wrigley (and for that matter the whole NL Central) are very friendly to-all-fields power hitters while Yankee Stadium favors pull hitters. On a healthy season, 60 homers for A-Rod wouldn't shock me at all.

This seems like a doable deal. A-Rod back at short, and believe me, the cub fans would cheer like you wouldn't believe... I love New York, but let's face it, the Cub fans are just a nicer crowd than Yankee Fans. Dusty Baker would need body guards in New York if he had his record with the Yankees. That dude in the stands last year who caught the ball, he'd have been killed.

For the Yanks to, A-Ram is no joke at the plate and a natural 3b and younger, and Jones can rake righties.
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Postby CharlatanSin » Tue Jul 04, 2006 6:15 pm

I call shenanigans, unless the Yankees got some serious pitching prospects back. Otherwise the deal makes no sense for NY. Ramirez is no scrub, and will be a top 3B for a long time, but I've always thought he was a bit overrated in general.
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Postby TheYanks04 » Tue Jul 04, 2006 6:19 pm

Utter nonsense wrt Arod. Why would the Yanks trade hm for a struggling ARam and a stiff like Jacque Jones? Just becuase Jacque Jones is hot right now? PLease. Cubbie wishful thinking.

As to AJ, why wouldn't the Braves deal him? He is a free agent next year and likely will get 15M+ a year on a 4 or 5 year deal and they probably do not want to pony up.
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Postby TheYanks04 » Tue Jul 04, 2006 6:22 pm

johnsamo wrote:A-Rod in a Cubbie uniform... The NL Central pitchers just let out a collective shudder.

Wrigley (and for that matter the whole NL Central) are very friendly to-all-fields power hitters while Yankee Stadium favors pull hitters. On a healthy season, 60 homers for A-Rod wouldn't shock me at all.

This seems like a doable deal. A-Rod back at short, and believe me, the cub fans would cheer like you wouldn't believe... I love New York, but let's face it, the Cub fans are just a nicer crowd than Yankee Fans. Dusty Baker would need body guards in New York if he had his record with the Yankees. That dude in the stands last year who caught the ball, he'd have been killed.

For the Yanks to, A-Ram is no joke at the plate and a natural 3b and younger, and Jones can rake righties.


Dusty Baker would have been fired in NY a long time ago. Unlike the Tribune, George would not put up with that nonsense for very long.
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Postby Hobbes » Tue Jul 04, 2006 7:11 pm

TheYanks04 wrote:As to AJ, why wouldn't the Braves deal him? He is a free agent next year and likely will get 15M+ a year on a 4 or 5 year deal and they probably do not want to pony up.

Andruw Jones is signed through 2007. He will not be a free agent next year.
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Postby TheYanks04 » Tue Jul 04, 2006 7:15 pm

Hobbes wrote:
TheYanks04 wrote:As to AJ, why wouldn't the Braves deal him? He is a free agent next year and likely will get 15M+ a year on a 4 or 5 year deal and they probably do not want to pony up.

Andruw Jones is signed through 2007. He will not be a free agent next year.



My bad...you are right. 13,5 M next season. Has Boras as his agent which I did not realize either. Going to get a big payday in 2008.

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Postby Hobbes » Tue Jul 04, 2006 7:24 pm

TheYanks04 wrote:My bad...you are right. 13,5 M next season. Has Boras as his agent which I did not realize either. Going to get a big payday in 2008.

He had Boras as an agent for his last contract as well. However, he bypassed Boras and used advice from his father to negotiate a below-market deal directly with the Braves. There is hope that his continuing desire to stay with the Braves will cause him to do something similar next time around. He is exactly the type of player who might give the Braves a hometown discount.

Personally I think that given his age he will take this opportunity to get the huge contract he didn't get last time. However, the uncertainty of how much of a hardline he will take with the Braves makes it tough to predict the prospect of a trade.

Also, since the Braves are changing ownership they do not know what will happen to their payroll by next season. If Liberty Media actually raises payroll the Braves might be able to retain Jones.
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Postby TheYanks04 » Tue Jul 04, 2006 7:29 pm

Hobbes wrote:
TheYanks04 wrote:My bad...you are right. 13,5 M next season. Has Boras as his agent which I did not realize either. Going to get a big payday in 2008.

He had Boras as an agent for his last contract as well. However, he bypassed Boras and used advice from his father to negotiate a below-market deal directly with the Braves. There is hope that his continuing desire to stay with the Braves will cause him to do something similar next time around. He is exactly the type of player who might give the Braves a hometown discount.

Personally I think that given his age he will take this opportunity to get the huge contract he didn't get last time. However, the uncertainty of how much of a hardline he will take with the Braves makes it tough to predict the prospect of a trade.

Also, since the Braves are changing ownership they do not know what will happen to their payroll by next season. If Liberty Media actually raises payroll the Braves might be able to retain Jones.



I think it might also come down to whether he thinks the Braves are serious about winning under the new ownership. Let's face it, AOL/Time Warner was pulling a Tribune on the Braves the past few years penny-pinching them to death. And apparently there are no more rabbits for Cox to pull out of his hat. The pitching staff is in shambles. Their only very good SP is Smoltz and he is no youngster. The bullpen is a total disgrace. It should prove interesting to see if the Braves go to a 2-3 year rebuilding plan or try to re-load ala the Yanks or Red Sox.
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Postby wrveres » Tue Jul 04, 2006 7:40 pm

You do realize that the Braves brass and Spankees brass do not really get along, right? ..

Not sure about last offseason, but in 2003 and 04, they Braves filed a grievence with the Commish over the way the Yankees signed their free agents.

There is no love loss between those two organizations.
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Postby moose32 » Tue Jul 04, 2006 8:45 pm

I only see this if those Cubs prospects go to teh Nats for Soriano
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