Coppermine wrote:They criticize him for everything, and it should come as no surprise from the fans who drove Scott Rolen and Billy Wagner right out of town. Now, to their defense, there are some knowledgable Phillies fans who are pretty upset about losing both of them (at least from a statistical standpoint), but for most Phillies fans, it's good riddance to anything and everything that does all but pour their 15th beer for them. I hate attending Philadelphia sporting events. For the most part it's a bunch of drunk losers with nothing better to do than boo their own team. And for the true Phillies fans, they're simply drowned out by the booze filled absurdity that filled The Vet back when I would occassionally splurge for a "cheap seat."
Hell, there are "Phillies Fans" out there criticizing Jimmy Rollins as a leadoff hitter, or even Aaron Rowland as "dogging it." They're serious. To them, it's all Charlie and Pat's fault; this, that and the other. Even Hamels, when he has a good start, it's all "Ok, that's not so bad" but one bad start and it's "There goes Phillies management screwing up some more." It's tiring.
ummm sorry man, better get your facts straight - it wasn't the phillie fans that drove out Rolen and Wagner, but the inept management team. Basically Rolen doubted the Phils organization's committment to win, and he was right! That's why he left - he wanted to go to a winning organization. And years of inept management is why Phillie fans are so bitter.
And Rollins IS a horrible lead-off hitter. His OB% is pathetic and he can't work a pitcher count at all.
Never heard anyone criticize Rowand - if anything Phillie fans would love a team full of Rowand type players.
This is the worst franchise in all of sports - more total losses than anyone else. Me personally, I am desperate to cheer for a winning phillies team, and I and other Phillie fans have simply had enough of this crappy underachieving organization. Plus the way they handled the whole Myers wifebeating thing was pathetic. It's just one more reason to boo them.