teddy ballgame wrote:
Xtreemes wrote:It's Montana and Elway in my opinion
Same. Montana, Elway, Unitas, Starr, Bradshaw, Greise, and when it's all said and done even Manning and Brady will be right up there.
They may or may not be better than Marino but you can argue for any of them. You said that few people say Marino is not the best, which is the main thing I'm arguing. I just did a search for "Greatest All Time Quarterbacks" and Marino is yet to be on the top of any poll or list. He's up there and is most definately in the discussion...and may very well could be #1 but again, to say few people disagree he's number 1 is far from the truth.
You must be looking in places I'm not. Straight from Wiki
Daniel Constantine Marino Jr. (born September 15, 1961 in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania of Italian and Polish ancestry) is an American football former quarterback who played for the Miami Dolphins in the National Football League. He holds or has held almost every meaningful NFL passing record and is widely recognized as one of the greatest quarterbacks in football history, despite never winning a Superbowl.
And some more Records/Stats
* Most Attempts, Career: 8,358
* Most Completions, Career: 4,967
* Most Yards Passing, Career: 61,361
* Most Touchdown Passes, Career: 420
* Most Passing Yards, Season: 5,084 in 1984
* Most Games, 400 or more Yards Passing, Career: 13
* Most Games, 400 or more Yards Passing, Season: 4 in 1984
* Most Games, 300 or more Yards Passing, Career: 60
* Most Seasons, 3,000 or more Yards Passing: 13 (1984-92, 1994-95, 1997-98)
* Most Consecutive Seasons, 3,000 or more Yards Passing: 9 (1984-92)
* Most Games, Four or more Touchdown Passes, Career: 21
* Most Games, Four or more Touchdown Passes, Season: 6 in 1984
* Most Consecutive Games, Four or more Touchdown Passes: 4 in 1984
* Lowest Percentage, Passes Intercepted, Rookie Season: 2.03 in 1983 (296-6)
* Most Seasons Leading League, Attempts: 5 (1984, 1986, 1988, 1992, 1997)
* Most Seasons Leading League, Completions: 6 (1984-86, 1988, 1992, 1997)
* Most Seasons, 40 or more Touchdown Passes: 2 (1984, 1986)
* Most Seasons, 20 or more Touchdown Passes: 13 (1983-92, 1994-95, 1998)
* Most Consecutive Seasons, 20 or more Touchdown Passes: 10 (1983-92)
* 100 TD Passes in Fewest Amount of Games to Start Career: 44 (9/7/86 at San Diego)
* 200 TD passes in Fewest Amount of Games to Start Career: 89 (9/17/89 at New England)
* 300 TD passes in Fewest Amount of Games to Start Career: 157 (9/4/94 vs. New England)
NFL records tied for
* Most Seasons Leading League, Yards Gained: 5 (1984-86, 1988, 1992) with Sonny Jurgensen (Philadelphia, 1961-62; Washington, 1966-67, 1969)
* Most Consecutive Seasons Leading League, Completions: 3 (1984-86) with George Blanda (Houston, 1963-65)
* Most Consecutive Games, 400 or more Yards Passing: 2 (1984) with Dan Fouts (San Diego, 1982) and Phil Simms (N.Y. Giants, 1985)
* Most Seasons, 4000 or more Yards Passing: (1984-86, 1988, 1992, 1994) with Peyton Manning (Indianapolis, 1999-2004)
* Named NFL Most Valuable Player (1984)
* Played 242 games, starting 240 of them
* Career completion percentage of 59.4%
* Career passing efficiency rating is 86.4
* Threw 252 interceptions in his career
* First QB in NFL history to have six 4,000-yard seasons (1984-86, 1988, 1992, 1994)
* Only QB in NFL history to pass for 5,000 or more yards in a single season (5,084 in 1984)
* Led 37 fourth-quarter comeback victories, second only to John Elway.
* Holds Dolphins team record for most seasons played, 17.
* Had 116 wins under Don Shula – the most by a head coach - quarterback combination in NFL history.
* Won the AFC Offensive Player of the Week honor 18 times in the regular season (and 20 times overall, including playoffs).
* Started 240 Regular Season Games and Held a 147-93 record as a starter ( Second to John Elway's NFL Best 148-82-1 Regular Season Record )
* Played in 18 Playoff Games and Held an 8-10 Record in the Playoffs
* One of only six quarterbacks in NFL history that have achieved two consecutive (back-to-back) 30-touchdown passing seasons at least one time in their careers (the others are Steve Bartkowski, Brett Favre, Dan Fouts, Jeff Garcia, and Y. A. Tittle).
* Passed for 4,510 yards over career in playoff games
* Threw at least one touchdown pass in 16 of his 18 playoff contests, throwing a TD pass in his first 13 postseason contests.