Actually I don't mind the comparison, they both have really similar body types in that they're not conventional leadoff hitters w/ really small frames. Reyes I think is 6'1'' or 6'2", Hanley's around there as well. They're skinny now and fast, and I think in the long term they both gain about 10-15 pounds of muscle and fall into the 20 HR/35-40 SB range (maybe Reyes has a bit more speed, Hanley a bit more power).
The question is whether Hanley will ever have a good average due to his contact and plate discipline issues. It's not easy to say, "Oh, just b/c Jose Reyes is starting to do it, Hanley will as well." There has to be some evidence. Looking at last year, you see that Reyes had a decent contact rate, even though he never walked much (his contact rate was in the 80's, so theoretically good enough for a .280-.290 avg. w/ his speed). Hanley, however, strikes out about a quarter of the time, so his contact rate is a mediocre 75%. It indicates that long-term, unless he learns how to put the bat on the ball a little better, he won't be much better than a .270 hitter.
freeling_prideful wrote:Actually I don't mind the comparison, they both have really similar body types in that they're not conventional leadoff hitters w/ really small frames. Reyes I think is 6'1'' or 6'2", Hanley's around there as well. They're skinny now and fast, and I think in the long term they both gain about 10-15 pounds of muscle and fall into the 20 HR/35-40 SB range (maybe Reyes has a bit more speed, Hanley a bit more power).
See your wrong starting it right there, they don't have similiar body types. Hanley is already 6'3 or 6'4' and close to 200, his body type is much more built like Rentaria. Reyes on the other hand is pretty much just 6'0' and defiantly around 180 or so. Hanley has more room to grow into his body and eventually hit for more power, but that will also come at the cost of some speed.
I really don't think they are that similiar of players. Besides just being great athletes, they are different players to me.
Yes, Hanley was a great prospect in Boston's farm system and he's had success for the Marlins this year. Seriously, would he be playing in the majors this year if he weren't traded? I highly doubt it. He's not that great of a lead off pitcher nor is he a Jose Reyes but he will put those SB and get the Marlins (or any other team) some runs. No other team really needs a SS and so come to think of it he's actually doing pretty well his rookie year. The 2nd half will determine his success in the upcoming years but I'm assuming a 110+ runs scored and a 40+ SB.
Absolutely Adequate wrote:Hanley will be a good player. But he'll never be Jose Reyes.
This bugs me.
Up until June, Reyes was a .250 hitter this season, with an OPS of under .720. He's had a great month...so what? He'll fall back to earth.
i doubt it.. his eye for the ball has been much better of late.. i think hes turned a corner and is now becoming a sueprstar in this league..
and whoever said hanley is going to steal 40 bases and score 110runs this season is crazy.. i look for more along the lines of 35sbs with 95runs or so..
Absolutely Adequate wrote:Hanley will be a good player. But he'll never be Jose Reyes.
This bugs me.
Up until June, Reyes was a .250 hitter this season, with an OPS of under .720. He's had a great month...so what? He'll fall back to earth.
i doubt it.. his eye for the ball has been much better of late.. i think hes turned a corner and is now becoming a sueprstar in this league..
and whoever said hanley is going to steal 40 bases and score 110runs this season is crazy.. i look for more along the lines of 35sbs with 95runs or so..
It's about mid-season. Usually you double what he has the first half of the season and that's not a very conservative estimate.
Absolutely Adequate wrote:Hanley will be a good player. But he'll never be Jose Reyes.
This bugs me.
Up until June, Reyes was a .250 hitter this season, with an OPS of under .720. He's had a great month...so what? He'll fall back to earth.
i doubt it.. his eye for the ball has been much better of late.. i think hes turned a corner and is now becoming a sueprstar in this league..
and whoever said hanley is going to steal 40 bases and score 110runs this season is crazy.. i look for more along the lines of 35sbs with 95runs or so..
It's about mid-season. Usually you double what he has the first half of the season and that's not a very conservative estimate.
and to do that hes going to have to go on another hot streak like he did.. which he is most likely not going to do.. i cant think of many rookies that put up 40 sbs and 110 runs there first season in the majors very unlikely.. wishful thinking though