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No-No/Perfect Game vs Hit Streak

Postby RyanK » Sat Jun 24, 2006 3:18 pm

Watching the Sox game and thinking of last night how Beckett had one for awhile and seeing Rollins at bat I was wondering;

Say its the 9th inning, a pitcher is pitching a no hitter or a perfect game and his team is up by a 5 or more runs and a hitter has a 25+ game hitting streak going. Does that hitter try for a hit or dub it down a little to try and let the pitcher complete his PG of No-No..


just something I was thinking.. i think id say let him get the Perfect Game or No No



*edit.. i probably shouldve put this in the leftovers... so if someone wouldnt mind moving it, id be greatly appreciative(if thats a word)
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Postby teddy ballgame » Sat Jun 24, 2006 3:22 pm

The guy should go for the hit streak imo. If it's your own record on the line, why give it up? I remember Carl Everett breaking up a no-hitter vs Mussina in the 9th with 1 or 2 outs at Fenway. That was awesome.

And the guy who laid a bunt down on Schilling when Curt had a no hit bid going...you don't just lay down and let the pitcher get it. I think most guys want to break it up whether they have a streak going or not.
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Postby RyanK » Sat Jun 24, 2006 3:33 pm

teddy ballgame wrote:The guy should go for the hit streak imo. If it's your own record on the line, why give it up? I remember Carl Everett breaking up a no-hitter vs Mussina in the 9th with 1 or 2 outs at Fenway. That was awesome.

And the guy who laid a bunt down on Schilling when Curt had a no hit bid going...you don't just lay down and let the pitcher get it. I think most guys want to break it up whether they have a streak going or not.


I remember Everett doing that.. i guess its because i was a pitcher my whole life that i think you should let them get it..
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Postby Coppermine » Sat Jun 24, 2006 3:42 pm

I think if the pitcher is going to accomplish a no-hitter, it's his responsibility to accomplish it. If you're a hitter with a hit streak going, why dog it at all? Go for the hit; if the pitcher deserves the no-no, he'll get you out anyway. A difference in this situation would be if the pitcher going for the no-no in the 9th walks that player with hit streak; ouch.

Now if it's a perfect game situation, and I was the one with the 25 game hit streak, I would probably tone it down and let the guy get the perfecto; those are once in a lifetime opportunity and will get you quite a bit of prestige. A hit streak barely means anything unless you get close to 50 games.
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Postby Lofunzo » Sat Jun 24, 2006 4:18 pm

Remember when Schilling got all mad when he bunted to get on and break it up?? :-t
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Postby Coppermine » Sat Jun 24, 2006 4:21 pm

Lofunzo wrote:Remember when Schilling got all mad when he bunted to get on and break it up?? :-t


That's kind of cheap too though; bunting to get on at the end of a no-hit bid. If the games out of reach, swing away; at least the pitcher can make you earn it.
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Postby Lofunzo » Sat Jun 24, 2006 4:32 pm

Coppermine wrote:
Lofunzo wrote:Remember when Schilling got all mad when he bunted to get on and break it up?? :-t


That's kind of cheap too though; bunting to get on at the end of a no-hit bid. If the games out of reach, swing away; at least the pitcher can make you earn it.


I disagree completely. If memory serves, it was a 2-0 game in the 8th or 9th inning against a team that they were fighting for the division title with. If a hitter leaned in to get hit in the 9th inning of a perfect game, I could see him being mad. I see nothing wrong with what was done against Schilling.
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Postby MMoNeY24 » Sat Jun 24, 2006 4:33 pm

Hit streak or not, I'd be up there trying to bust it up.
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Postby Coppermine » Sat Jun 24, 2006 5:13 pm

Lofunzo wrote:
Coppermine wrote:
Lofunzo wrote:Remember when Schilling got all mad when he bunted to get on and break it up?? :-t


That's kind of cheap too though; bunting to get on at the end of a no-hit bid. If the games out of reach, swing away; at least the pitcher can make you earn it.


I disagree completely. If memory serves, it was a 2-0 game in the 8th or 9th inning against a team that they were fighting for the division title with. If a hitter leaned in to get hit in the 9th inning of a perfect game, I could see him being mad. I see nothing wrong with what was done against Schilling.


Well I agree with that; if it was a close game that had playoff meaning, then you have to do what you have to do to win for your team; baseball isn't an individual sport. I forgot about this game, but now that you mention it, Schilling had no right to let his ego get all huffy in a game like this.
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Postby ds209 » Sat Jun 24, 2006 5:27 pm

If I were the hitter I would never let the pitcher get his no-no or perfect game. At that time you would be playing for pride and it would be embarrasing to be the team that was no hit.
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