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by **warrick95** » Tue Aug 12, 2003 10:50 am

Tim Hudson for Cy Young! I'm now T-3rd in WHIP thanks to a great start from him!

by **blankman** » Tue Aug 12, 2003 12:52 pm

anyone know Halladay's ERA this year excluding his first few terrible games? That would be interesting to know for a comparison.

by **GSes** » Tue Aug 12, 2003 1:08 pm

Halladay overall Era is 3.40, excluding those first 2 starts I still dont believe he has a better ERa then Hudson b/c Halladay won more games due to the Toronto offense. Hudson AL Best .211 opp batt. avg and 1.01 whip beat Halladay easily. If u had Hudson since June on ur team then odds are if u started him every time out, that ur era and whip were greatly improved.

by **GSes** » Tue Aug 12, 2003 1:22 pm

Here are month by month splits for all 3 of Halladay/Loazaza/Hudson

Halladay: ERA Whip opp. Bat AVG

March: 4.76 1.42 .304

April: 4.91 1.42 .304

May: 3.22 0.96 .231

june: 3.15 1.16 .253

July: 2.15 0.83 .207

aug: 4.60 1.15 .281

Loaiza: ERA WHIP OPP. Batt AVG

April: 1.25 0.67 .151

May: 2.65 1.39 .252

June: 2.57 1.09 .244

July: 2.55 1.16 .263

Aug: 1.93 0.93 .208

Huddy: ERA WHIP Opp. Batt AVG

April: 3.67 1.30 .239

May: 2.74 0.96 .219

June: 2.83 1.17 .246

July: 1.35 0.84 .175

Aug: 1.88 0.71 .160

by **pkarr5000** » Tue Aug 12, 2003 1:48 pm

its a little too early to predict who will win the a.l. cy young, but if it were up to me, i would say mark mulder. compared to hudson, most of their stats are very similar but the one statistic that stands out to me the most is the 9 complete games because it shows that he can pitch effectivley and keep his pitch count down. i know his away era is horrible but if it werent for that florida explosion, his era would be very decent. he should turn out to be a 21 game winner, while huddy is projected for another 15 win season. i know foulke stole a few wins, but a win is a win and the point is, huddy needs to keep his pc down like last night in order to pitch more cg's.

by **guest** » Tue Aug 12, 2003 1:49 pm

I don't even own him on any teams (bad luck really) and I still think he should get the Cy Young. Good deal. :-)

by **GSes** » Tue Aug 12, 2003 2:31 pm

huddy or mulder?

both very deserving and mulder 9cg's are amazing. but no one has consistently pitched better then hudson and loaza. just to show the a's are

The A's are 20-5 in games that Hudson has started.

What does that tell you, it tells a lot.

by **pkarr5000** » Tue Aug 12, 2003 2:39 pm

his record doesnt though, nor does his k/bb, and k/9ip

by **GSes** » Tue Aug 12, 2003 2:43 pm

im not gonna argue cuz id be happy if either won the cy young award. and hudson stata as far as k's and bb are the same as mulder.

by **pkarr5000** » Tue Aug 12, 2003 2:47 pm

yeah as long as an athletic takes home an award

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