The_Met_Threat wrote:joshheines i dont understand your Mauer comparison. Sure if we were drafting VORP style, hed be a great pick, but in baseball Vorp is less of a factor than in lets say football. The fact that you know Mauer will fall past round 3 because of his numbers, automatically kicks him out of the top 15. His numbers may be damn good compared to catchers, but to other first rounders, they are just terrible. You cant just give him his would be OF numbers and say hed get that, because hes not. A first rounder is supposed to give you a good consistent season, with great numbers, Mauer may give you a great season over the next catcher, but not compared to the whole playing field.
There is no such thing as drafting VORP style. Fantasy baseball on a whole should be considered based on either a VORP style or VOAP (A being average). For example, what team would be better, a team with Sizemore and league average players at the rest of the positions, or Mauer and league average players at the rest of the positions? That's the true determination of value. To not consider position scarcity in making an evaluation of a player is missing a solid 20% of the value of a player.
As far as Mauer falling to the 3rd round, I won't really dispute that. However, the question wasn't posed as, "Who is a first round pick?" It was posed as who are the top ten players for 2007. More will give you top ten value in 2007. It's up to the individual "owner" to select him in the 2nd round, or take a chance he's there in the 4th.
And, finally, you've completely missed the point of using Mauer as an example. Yes, Mauer's numbers are not as gaudy as other would-be first round picks, but his value is just as good if not better. You simply can't disregard position scarcity. And taking position scarcity into consideration is what VORP is all about.