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Postby Pogotheostrich » Wed Jun 21, 2006 11:09 am

Mulder hasn't been a fantasy option for a while.

But he is going to get paid next year. 8 million per year seems like the lowest amount he'll get.
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Postby mrider » Wed Jun 21, 2006 11:11 am

Yes Mulder will get a big contract. All he needs are 13 wins and a decent end to the season and he will get 10 million. If AJ Burnett and Kevin Millwood can get 11 I see no reason why Mulder can't get 10 or at least 8.
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Postby Zito is God » Wed Jun 21, 2006 12:15 pm

I traded Mulder for Sexson straight up at the beggining of last season in my dynasty...I was booed for it, I am however happier then ever about that now.

Anyway, I am a big Mulder fan ever since his days in Oakland. I will however say that Mulder is done for the season. I think if a pitchers park can sign him he may rebound and be a #3 but overall right now he is pitching like a poor man's number 5. His Ks are down ever from the al;ready low level they were at in his career, walks are up, ERA is horrid, WHIP and BAA are up. I don't see how some still can't see these warning signs. I declined Mulder for Wang straight up in dynasty, I would have jumped on that deal at the start of the year. This guy is pitching like Redman right now and should get money like him too. The market is thin and this might be another Eric Milton situation but I see Mulder leaving for a 2/10 deal somewhere on the west coast. For Christ sake Ponson is pitching better as of now.
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Postby Pogotheostrich » Wed Jun 21, 2006 1:49 pm

Zito is God wrote:Anyway, I am a big Mulder fan ever since his days in Oakland. I will however say that Mulder is done for the season. I think if a pitchers park can sign him he may rebound and be a #3 but overall right now he is pitching like a poor man's number 5. His Ks are down ever from the al;ready low level they were at in his career, walks are up, ERA is horrid, WHIP and BAA are up. I don't see how some still can't see these warning signs. I declined Mulder for Wang straight up in dynasty, I would have jumped on that deal at the start of the year. This guy is pitching like Redman right now and should get money like him too. The market is thin and this might be another Eric Milton situation but I see Mulder leaving for a 2/10 deal somewhere on the west coast. For Christ sake Ponson is pitching better as of now.

I don't think you will find too many here that disagree with you but I think you are over-estimating most MLB GMs.
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Postby CeeLoGreen » Wed Jun 21, 2006 3:22 pm

From ESPN's Tristan Cockcroft.

Grain of salt here.

Mark Mulder, SP, Cardinals

2.1 IP, 10 H, 9 ER, 13.50 ERA in last 5 GS

There was a point on Tuesday night when Mulder appeared on his way to a bounce-back performance, retiring the first six batters he faced through two perfect innings. But then came the third and an effective meltdown by the left-hander, as he allowed nine runs on 10 hits while recording only one out, including seven straight hits at one point. That has been the story of Mulder's performance for the past month; in his five starts since May 28, he's 1-3 with a 13.50 ERA, .434 batting average allowed and 10 homers allowed. Such numbers can't help but suggest a pitcher isn't quite at full health, especially when you consider that Mulder had lifetime numbers of a 3.97 ERA, .265 BAA and three homers allowed per five starts entering Tuesday. Plus, look at his opponents. Among those five starts were a game at pitching-friendly Petco Park and one each against the light-hitting Cubs and Pirates, games a typical Mulder should win. Tuesday's opponent was the potent White Sox, which is a much tougher matchup, and so is his next one, in Detroit on Sunday. Don't be at all surprised if the Cardinals bump Mulder from the rotation soon, provided he doesn't make a quick turnaround, which isn't looking likely. On the bright side, such a demotion would only help solidify Anthony Reyes' status as a permanent major leaguer

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Postby Zito is God » Wed Jun 21, 2006 4:08 pm

Wow, if Mulder gets sent to the pen I will be quite surprised, usually pitchers with his name recodnition never get demoted like that. How the mighty have fallen.
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Postby j_d_mcnugent » Wed Jun 21, 2006 4:18 pm

if mulder goes anywhere it will be to the DL. he would be useless in the pen. he has seen a back specialist this year and maybe that is the problem. even if it wasnt the cards would just say it is, DL him, and let him try to find himself.
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Postby j_d_mcnugent » Wed Jun 21, 2006 4:21 pm

Pogotheostrich wrote:
Zito is God wrote: This guy is pitching like Redman right now and should get money like him too. The market is thin and this might be another Eric Milton situation but I see Mulder leaving for a 2/10 deal somewhere on the west coast. For Christ sake Ponson is pitching better as of now.

I don't think you will find too many here that disagree with you but I think you are over-estimating most MLB GMs.


someone will think they can fix him and offer him an esteban loaiza like 3/21 deal.
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Postby Zito is God » Wed Jun 21, 2006 6:41 pm

j_d_mcnugent wrote:
Pogotheostrich wrote:
Zito is God wrote: This guy is pitching like Redman right now and should get money like him too. The market is thin and this might be another Eric Milton situation but I see Mulder leaving for a 2/10 deal somewhere on the west coast. For Christ sake Ponson is pitching better as of now.

I don't think you will find too many here that disagree with you but I think you are over-estimating most MLB GMs.


someone will think they can fix him and offer him an esteban loaiza like 3/21 deal.


I believe Beane would resign him again, for much less money if possible.
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Postby j_d_mcnugent » Thu Jun 22, 2006 5:53 pm

mulder officially to the DL with a sore shoulder (or is it sore neck from watching all the home runs?).
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