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Postby RynMan » Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:29 pm

I wouldn't resign him.
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Postby Havok1517 » Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:31 pm

TheYanks04 wrote:I disagree. No one pays for stats 3 years in the past. At best, Mulder will have to settle for a 1 year contract with incentives.

Zito may not be #1 ace material, but I think he is a extremely good #3 or a pretty good #2 on any contender. And as the only quality SP likely to be available in the off-season, look for him to get really big bucks.


Mulder will get paid if he goes on the FA market just for that reason. After Zito...the talent gets thin.
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Postby TheYanks04 » Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:35 pm

Havok1517 wrote:
TheYanks04 wrote:I disagree. No one pays for stats 3 years in the past. At best, Mulder will have to settle for a 1 year contract with incentives.

Zito may not be #1 ace material, but I think he is a extremely good #3 or a pretty good #2 on any contender. And as the only quality SP likely to be available in the off-season, look for him to get really big bucks.


Mulder will get paid if he goes on the FA market just for that reason. After Zito...the talent gets thin.


Get paid...sure. get paid big...not a chance imo. Like I said, at best he gets a 4 M or so deal with incentives or soemthing like that. No one is going to pay him 8M+ a year on a multiyear deal unless the market reaches new levels of insanity or the Reds decide they want another Milton.
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Postby j_d_mcnugent » Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:38 pm

stick a fork in him, he is done.

even if by some miracle he does turn things around he isnt going to k enough people to be much more valuable than spot starters.
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Postby Havok1517 » Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:40 pm

I'd sign him for 4mill if I was a team in need of pitching. But I think he gets around 8-10 mill for around 3 years. He's still under 30. Sad, in know, but pitching is that valuable and the market looks so thin. Right now maybe the Cards could resign him for 6 mill for a few years?
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Postby j_d_mcnugent » Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:41 pm

TheYanks04 wrote:
Get paid...sure. get paid big...not a chance imo. Like I said, at best he gets a 4 M or so deal with incentives or soemthing like that. No one is going to pay him 8M+ a year on a multiyear deal unless the market reaches new levels of insanity or the Reds decide they want another Milton.


last offseason i said no way anyone gives morris a multi year deal but he got 3/27. he was arguably just as bad as mulder in his last two years with the cards.
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Postby TheYanks04 » Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:43 pm

j_d_mcnugent wrote:
TheYanks04 wrote:
Get paid...sure. get paid big...not a chance imo. Like I said, at best he gets a 4 M or so deal with incentives or soemthing like that. No one is going to pay him 8M+ a year on a multiyear deal unless the market reaches new levels of insanity or the Reds decide they want another Milton.


last offseason i said no way anyone gives morris a multi year deal but he got 3/27. he was arguably just as bad as mulder in his last two years with the cards.



This is true. Good point. I think Mulder will have a lot worse numbers though than Morris had last season.
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Postby j_d_mcnugent » Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:52 pm

TheYanks04 wrote:

This is true. Good point. I think Mulder will have a lot worse numbers though than Morris had last season.


overall, probably. however, morris sucked to the tune a 5.32 era, 1.52 whip, and .309 baa post all-star break.

/sorry, i'm a bitter cardinal fan.
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Postby TheYanks04 » Tue Jun 20, 2006 11:11 pm

j_d_mcnugent wrote:
TheYanks04 wrote:

This is true. Good point. I think Mulder will have a lot worse numbers though than Morris had last season.


overall, probably. however, morris sucked to the tune a 5.32 era, 1.52 whip, and .309 baa post all-star break.

/sorry, i'm a bitter cardinal fan.



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Postby kcs261 » Wed Jun 21, 2006 12:32 am

Mulder is not good. He has been in decline since the second half of 2004. He is NOT a good buy low candidate. All you have to do is look at the rising ERA, rising WHIP, and declining K numbers. Leave Mulder off your fantasy team. :-t
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