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by **LiveForever** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 1:29 pm

mweir145 wrote:
acsguitar wrote:
mweir145 wrote:I still don't see Liriano or Santana picking up enough wins to get this thing. We'll see how it goes, though. Lots of baseball left to be played.

i really don't get how wins get you a cy young.

Colon again was a joke last year

Well I didn't say it made any sense, I just said that's how the writers vote.

IMO, Santana is hands down the first half Cy Young winner.

Hands down?

Santana 118.1 9 0 124 2.59 0.96
Liriano 81.1 9 1 94 1.99 0.97

I think that save by Liriano gives him the edge :-D

Go Twins.

by **CeeLoGreen** » Sat Jul 08, 2006 9:49 pm

Liriano killin it through 6. 2 hits, 3 walks, 0 runs, 7 Ks.

We'll see if he can keep it up. He is absolutely incredible for a rookie...hell for a pitcher...

by **WhiteHot** » Sat Jul 08, 2006 10:01 pm

CeeLoGreen wrote:Liriano killin it through 6. 2 hits, 3 walks, 0 runs, 7 Ks.

We'll see if he can keep it up. He is absolutely incredible for a rookie...hell for a pitcher...

7.0IP, 4H, 3BB, 0ER, 8Ks

He might be done for the night. Let's hope the bullpen holds on.

by **CBMGreatOne** » Sat Jul 08, 2006 10:06 pm

The Cy Young award only seems to go to the right candidate when that candidate leads the league in Ws and is a guy who has been in the running for it before.

Even if Liriano has a full point lower an ERA than the next best candidate, if that guy has even one more W, Liriano won't win the award. He's too young, hasn't paid his dues, and the sportswriters are too high on the W stat.

by **CeeLoGreen** » Sat Jul 08, 2006 10:41 pm

CBMGreatOne wrote:The Cy Young award only seems to go to the right candidate when that candidate leads the league in Ws and is a guy who has been in the running for it before.

Even if Liriano has a full point lower an ERA than the next best candidate, if that guy has even one more W, Liriano won't win the award. He's too young, hasn't paid his dues, and the sportswriters are too high on the W stat.

That statement is absolutely ridiculous.

Fernando Valenzuela won it as a rookie in 1982.

At the end of the season, you might just settle in for a nice plate of crow.

by **disgruntledjetsfan** » Sat Jul 08, 2006 10:47 pm

If the voting took place tomorrow, I don't see how anyone but Liriano could win the award. Don't get me wrong, Santana has had a great season, but Liriano has been downright incredible. If he continues this in the second half of the year and doesn't win the award, I will lose all respect for the Cy Young.

by **DeadWinterDay** » Sat Jul 08, 2006 11:17 pm

disgruntledjetsfan wrote:If the voting took place tomorrow, I don't see how anyone but Liriano could win the award. Don't get me wrong, Santana has had a great season, but Liriano has been downright incredible. If he continues this in the second half of the year and doesn't win the award, I will lose all respect for the Cy Young.

you havnt already?

by **dorje3** » Sat Jul 08, 2006 11:18 pm

[quote="LiveForeverHands down?

Santana 118.1 9 0 124 2.59 0.96
Liriano 81.1 9 1 94 1.99 0.97

I think that save by Liriano gives him the edge :-D

Go Twins.[/quote]

Santana 124.0 9-4 131 2.76 0.99
Liriano 88.1 10-1 102 1.84 0.98

Rolling.
If Wins are what the writers are looking for, well, Liriano's got that base covered as well. X-I

by **DeadWinterDay** » Sat Jul 08, 2006 11:22 pm

dorje3 wrote:
LiveForever wrote:Hands down?

Santana 118.1 9 0 124 2.59 0.96
Liriano 81.1 9 1 94 1.99 0.97

I think that save by Liriano gives him the edge

Go Twins.

Santana 118.1 9 0 124 2.59 0.96
Liriano 88.1 10 1 102 1.84 0.98

Rolling.

fixed it for ya

TBH I'd give Liriano the Cy Young and Papelbon the ROY at this point.

by **dorje3** » Sat Jul 08, 2006 11:25 pm

Yeah, just noticed...thanks.
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