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Postby Sensei » Fri Jun 16, 2006 1:50 am

Yanks04's arguments here mean nothing to me, mainly because without the "if it looks like a duck" argument, I get bored of reading his steroid babblings again and again.
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Postby tomdoyle3 » Fri Jun 16, 2006 7:36 am

I choose not to address Yanks04's ignorant post.

What is unusual about Helton is that his drop in power started when he was 30 years old. The thing is, you see a lot of players go through a power spike in their early thirties, not the other way around. I don't know what to make of it..
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Postby George_Foreman » Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:26 am

tomdoyle3 wrote:I choose not to address Yanks04's ignorant post.

What is unusual about Helton is that his drop in power started when he was 30 years old. The thing is, you see a lot of players go through a power spike in their early thirties, not the other way around. I don't know what to make of it..
I'd REALLY like to see some evidence that power spikes in the early 30s.

Also, Helton had a similar thing going last year. I don't think he's likely to put up 30+ homers again, but he'll still give you strong number in R/RBI and BA. If you can still get him on the cheap, I'd say it's a gamble worth taking.
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Postby cordscords » Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:29 am

I believe a players peak power years are supposed to be from age 27-33. I heard that somewhere.
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Postby NikkiSixx » Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:29 am

The thing is, I dont think we would be talking about his decline in power if he never had that stomach parasite that dropped him 15-20 pounds. You can lose quite a bit of strength with 15-20 pounds. I think next year you could expect 30 HR's. He still MIGHT do it this year, but I wouldnt count on it.
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Postby The Loveable Losers » Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:55 am

NikkiSixx wrote:The thing is, I dont think we would be talking about his decline in power if he never had that stomach parasite that dropped him 15-20 pounds. You can lose quite a bit of strength with 15-20 pounds. I think next year you could expect 30 HR's. He still MIGHT do it this year, but I wouldnt count on it.


That's very true...I just worry that this stomach ailment may be an ongoing thing. From what Jeff Erickson was saying on Rotowire acute terminal ileitis (what Helton was diagnosed as having) is similar or in some way related to Chrohn's disease. That doesn't paint a pretty picture.
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Postby great gretzky » Fri Jun 16, 2006 11:09 am

well, at any rate, I hope he keeps this up. I traded sexson for him in the beggining of the week, and it looks like helton might turn it around.

Then again, in a keeper league, just traded helton for lidge, so who knows?
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Postby tomdoyle3 » Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:30 pm

cordscords wrote:I believe a players peak power years are supposed to be from age 27-33. I heard that somewhere.


I've heard it more narrowed down to 29-32 years of age.
Last year, he hit 5 home runs in July, 4 in august, and 4 in September. If he does that again then he may reach 25, he just needs to start the year off better so he doesn't dig himself in such of a hole.
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Postby activechamp2006 » Fri Jun 16, 2006 2:00 pm

TheYanks04 wrote:15 Hrs from a round 3-5 1b...that is great value for all the Helton believers that drafted hin round 3-5. What happened to all those people saying he would hit 340 with 25+ HRs because of his "Great" second half last season? Where oh where has the power gone? Possibly the same place Tex's and Michael Young's and Beltre's have.


who says he cant still hit 340 with 25 hrs? i think the 340 avg is definatly in reach, i mean this guy has a career average of 335.. 25 hrs is also possible, i dont see that as 2 far out of reach.. 20-25 seams reasonable.. i think we could still see 100runs 100rbis 22hrs and a 330 average ;-D
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Postby CeeLoGreen » Fri Jun 16, 2006 2:16 pm

Bottom line is I have held onto him so far and am expecting a big second half from him. I drafted him in the sixth round not expecting huge power numbers, and after last year, a person could expect a slow first half. He is notoriously a second half player, at least for the last three years.
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