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Shields + Zumaya = Top flight starter????

Postby CeeLoGreen » Wed Jun 14, 2006 11:29 pm

I feel like a stud using Shields and Zumaya all year after picking them in the last two rounds of my big money league.

13 Earned Runs in 68 combined innings with 69 Ks, 6 Wins and 2 Saves.

In roto, this can be an extremely valuable strategy to lower your ratio categories and boost Wins, Ks and Saves.

Anyone else have good/bad experiences with using two setup men instead of a waiver wire pitcher???
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Postby j24jags » Wed Jun 14, 2006 11:30 pm

Yea ;-D
This has been discussed umpteen times but I am too lazy to dig up all the threads on it.
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Postby garf112 » Wed Jun 14, 2006 11:32 pm

http://fantasybaseballcafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=216947&start=15

There happened to be one on the front page about 6 or so threads down!
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Postby Tiki Barber's Barber » Wed Jun 14, 2006 11:41 pm

yaaa... LIMA strategy. Google it for more info. I can never use the strategy though, since I'm forced to drop my middle relievers for a stud pick up.
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Postby CeeLoGreen » Thu Jun 15, 2006 12:42 am

The night I post this, Shields gives up 2 hits, a walk and a run and takes a loss.


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Postby Inukchuk » Thu Jun 15, 2006 9:47 am

CeeLoGreen wrote:The night I post this, Shields gives up 2 hits, a walk and a run and takes a loss.


Strike from the Fantasy Gods.


Yeah, but how about Zumaya: 0H, 0BB, 5K's

Think about it: combined, they had 3IP, 6K, 1.33 WHIP, 3.00 ERA. Not great, but considering it was a below average night, I'll take it. Now if only Kenny Ray didn't give up 3R in 1IP...
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Postby TheYanks04 » Thu Jun 15, 2006 12:36 pm

Still nonsense as it presumes a daily league first off and ignores the fact that you burn two roster spots not one meaning you loose the value in the second spot. If you have a deep bench league, it does not matter much of course and works out well for you. But if you have a shallow bench, like only 1 or 2 spots, then this strategy is hurting you probably as much as it helps as you do not have the flexibility to get a DL guy out of the lineup, spot start someone else on a good matchup, etc.
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Postby Amazinz » Thu Jun 15, 2006 1:50 pm

TheYanks04 wrote:Still nonsense as it presumes a daily league first off and ignores the fact that you burn two roster spots not one meaning you loose the value in the second spot. If you have a deep bench league, it does not matter much of course and works out well for you. But if you have a shallow bench, like only 1 or 2 spots, then this strategy is hurting you probably as much as it helps as you do not have the flexibility to get a DL guy out of the lineup, spot start someone else on a good matchup, etc.

I don't think this matters much in a Roto league where this strategy is most effective. In Roto it doesn't matter if you "waste" a roster spot as long as you are on pace for the required innings pitched.
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Postby acsguitar » Thu Jun 15, 2006 1:51 pm

Amazinz wrote:
TheYanks04 wrote:Still nonsense as it presumes a daily league first off and ignores the fact that you burn two roster spots not one meaning you loose the value in the second spot. If you have a deep bench league, it does not matter much of course and works out well for you. But if you have a shallow bench, like only 1 or 2 spots, then this strategy is hurting you probably as much as it helps as you do not have the flexibility to get a DL guy out of the lineup, spot start someone else on a good matchup, etc.

I don't think this matters much in a Roto league where this strategy is most effective. In Roto it doesn't matter if you "waste" a roster spot as long as you are on pace for the required innings pitched.


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Postby tinfoilxtouch » Thu Jun 15, 2006 2:06 pm

It works if you have roster space. In the standard Yahoo league, it's a bit of a problem. With 2 RP spots and 3 P spots, my five closers clog up all of the daily starts. Neither of those guys qualifies as a SP, so I couldn't start them without benching a real closer. :-/
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